Help me out please

[steelernut]

I just got done with a OWC fight online in the middle wieght DIV. I lost by a land side vote according to the judges. heres the kicker I usually don't do this (I wish I had a camera but I dont) but I feel I have to to get some insight, so I'm going to lay out the score card....

reeemulla Steelersnut

HEAD 37% HEAD 44%
187/493 52/117
BODY 54% BODY 76%
67/122 381/495

TOTAL 41% TOTAL 70%
254/615 433/612
JAB 42% JAB 56%
119/277 40/71
STRAIGHT 39% STRAIGHT 61%
101/258 88/142
L HOOK 30% L HOOK 69%
9/30 60/86
R HOOK 54% R HOOK 84%
24/44 48/57
L UPPER 20% L UPPER 37%
1/5 3/8
R UPPER R UPPER 78%
0/1 184/248
POWER POWER
0/1 0/0
COUNTER 44% COUNTER 86%
4/9 25/29

Judge score card #1 Judge score card
97 92
Judge score card #2
96 93
Judge score card #3
97 92

Like I said he won the fight by a land slide. If this was a real match the Judges view would be I didn't even come to compete, I didn't even try to fight according to their score cards. I just want ya'll honest opinions on this, because litterally my mouth dropped after this match.

[JayBee74]

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It seems like an anomaly. You should have won, but you had to tire yourself out by throwing that right uppercut (184-248, 78%). Were you throwing them two at a time?

I still haven't heard anything about punch strength as it relates to short term and long term fatigue being factored into the scoring.

What was your stamina for the last couple of rounds?

[steelernut]

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It seems like an anomaly. You should have won, but you had to tire yourself out by throwing that right uppercut (184-248, 78%). Were you throwing them two at a time?

I still haven't heard anything about punch strength as it relates to short term and long term fatigue being factored into the scoring.

What was your stamina for the last couple of rounds?

My stamina was fine brah. I promise you my dude. I didn't get the exact % of my stamina but I remember being tired in the tenth but I wasn't zombie walking if thats what you mean. I'll tell U the fight in a nutshell.

In the first three rounds I was throwing allot jabs and straights (I'm a counter puncher). I felt I was winning, when the 3rd round score cards came up and it read I was losing every round I was like "WTF". So then I picked it up and became more aggressive as you can see by the evidence above, I still was countering but I was throwing more punches. In the last few rounds, especially after the 8th I was throwing more shots to the body, thats probably where you see all the uppercuts, I was chasing this guy all over the ring. Matter of fact when the fight was over, I looked at every round, and I was literally ahead by 10 to 20 punches in every one. For the record I don't run, I don't spam, (hate spammers) I would have never lasted the fight if that was the case, I step to the side and I will step back from time to time to counter and set traps. After the fight my opponent asked to be my friend, I wrote him back basically saying to him I got SHAFTED, he didn't reply back. I wish I had a camera because I was kinda pissed and i wanted to report it, but I calmed down and Just took the "L" , its just a game. but it seems to me the JUDGING is FLAWED.

[Bamtino]

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The new scoring system favors head punches over body punches...He won by a landslide because he threw and landed over 3x the amount of head punches you did...

Stop body spamming...

[JayBee74]

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The new scoring system favors head punches over body punches...He won by a landslide because he threw and landed over 3x the amount of head punches you did...

Stop body spamming...

Good point-that's the way it should be.

[steelernut]

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The new scoring system favors head punches over body punches...He won by a landslide because he threw and landed over 3x the amount of head punches you did...

Stop body spamming...

So I guess the scoring system doesn't favor ring generalship nor do they favor counter punchers or aggression. But in your view they favor players who are head hunters. Thats not boxing brah, just because head shots look exciting does not mean you should win the fight (hence the ceasar chavev jr fight), any boxer would tell you hurting the body is a very important aspect in the sport. Like I said previously I was countering and picking shots in the first 3rounds, until the judges had me losing all 3rounds, so I became more aggressive. I had to go to his body more often because he was running for most of the fight... Oooops my bad according to you the judges don't reward inside fighters but runners & head hunters. Dude in the last round my opponent threw 10 punches while running and I threw 40punches landed 25, and the score card gave him the tenth also, and it was like that pretty much the whole fight. Come on son there is something wrong with that.

I play this game often and I've never been labeled a spammer (wow). I always been labeled a smart fighter, but hey to each its own. But if you'd like you can request me, and you can see for yourself. I'm pretty successful at this game, and I have allot of fights under my belt, I think by now somebody would have told me I'm spammer by now. I'm in the number one gym in the world brah, spamming is not acceptable in the gym. You can check me out if you want. I'll even further extend my hand to you and challenge you to a match if you got the time and you can determine yourself if I'm a spammer or not. (steelersnut ps3)

[steelernut]

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Good point-that's the way it should be.

How are you going to say " I should have won", then turn right around and agree with something different. Hmmmmm (scratching my head)

[JayBee74]

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I play this game often and I've never been labeled a spammer (wow). I always been labeled a smart fighter, but hey to each its own.

Don't take my quote reply as saying you are a spammer. I was agreeing with hitting the head should count more than hitting the body, because it's simply harder to do.

Knocking down the jab and body punching's significance in scoring might not make for a perfect sim, but it makes for a better boxing game.

But all those body punches you landed should have slowed him to a crawl, right?

[Bamtino]

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I play this game often and I've never been labeled a spammer (wow). I always been labeled a smart fighter, but hey to each its own. But if you'd like you can request me, and you can see for yourself. I'm pretty successful at this game, and I have allot of fights under my belt, I think by now somebody would have told me I'm spammer by now. I'm in the number one gym in the world brah, spamming is not acceptable in the gym. You can check me out if you want. I'll even further extend my hand to you and challenge you to a match if you got the time and you can determine yourself if I'm a spammer or not. (steelersnut ps3)

You asked for help and i gave it to you...I don't care how often you play this game and i care even less about what e-gym you belong to "brah"...

Whether you like it or not according to those punch stats you are a body spammer...You threw 495 body punches, if that's not spamming then i guess my definition of spamming is wrong...

The scoring system was purposely changed so a guy with punch stats like yours can never win a fight on the cards and i wholeheartedly agree with it...It was done to deter body spamming and according to what i have been reading its working...

Hate to break it to you but based soley on those punch stats in the real world judges would have also given the fight to your opponent...You guys threw the same amount of punches, granted you had a higher connect percentage but he connected with the more effective punches...Head punches always count more than body punches...

Change your style or keep losing fights...

[steelernut]

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You asked for help and i gave it to you...I don't care how often you play this game and i care even less about what e-gym you belong to "brah"...

Whether you like it or not according to those punch stats you are a body spammer...You threw 495 body punches, if that's not spamming then i guess my definition of spamming is wrong...

The scoring system was purposely changed so a guy with punch stats like yours can never win a fight on the cards and i wholeheartedly agree with it...It was done to deter body spamming and according to what i have been reading its working...

Hate to break it to you but based soley on those punch stats in the real world judges would have also given the fight to your opponent...You guys threw the same amount of punches, granted you had a higher connect percentage but he connected with the more effective punches...Head punches always count more than body punches...

Change your style or keep losing fights...

SMH.. I don't want to get into a feud with you "Brah"... I did come on here for an honest opinion, you gave it me, and I appreciate it. But just because EA wants to dictate the way they think a fight should be doesn't mean its right by any standard. Like I told you I don't spam never have. I even invited you to play me to see where I'm coming from. The reason I let you know my past fights success and the gym I'm in was not boast but to try and let you know I'm no cheat, and I feel spamming is a form of cheating in my eyes. Whether you believe it or not I was robbed of a win, and I hardly doubt if my fight was real the judges would score the fight the same way. If so then the fans and peers would say otherwise, which I'll take that decision any time.

[steelernut]

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Don't take my quote reply as saying you are a spammer. I was agreeing with hitting the head should count more than hitting the body, because it's simply harder to do.

Knocking down the jab and body punching's significance in scoring might not make for a perfect sim, but it makes for a better boxing game.

But all those body punches you landed should have slowed him to a crawl, right?

my bad man. As you can see I take spamming as an insult lol. I appreciate your view point and taking your time out to read my issue.

[JayBee74]

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my bad man. As you can see I take spamming as an insult lol. I appreciate your view point and taking your time out to read my issue.

Even if u did body spam a little bit it wouldn't make u a bad person lol pre tuner the game rewarded going to the body over the head except in going for a knockdown or ko the head was better for that all you have to look at is the disparity in connect%s

[JayBee74]

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BODY 62%
HEAD 41%

These numbers are examples

[threattonature]

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If 80% of your punches are going to the body you are spamming straight up. In real life you will never see that huge of a percentage of punches going to the body.

Also in real life, head punches are the sexier punches. They are much easier to tell if they connected solidly and if they are inflicting damage. Even if you're killing the body the most it will do is turn red while a face will swell up, and cut and bruise.

[steelernut]

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If 80% of your punches are going to the body you are spamming straight up. In real life you will never see that huge of a percentage of punches going to the body.

Also in real life, head punches are the sexier punches. They are much easier to tell if they connected solidly and if they are inflicting damage. Even if you're killing the body the most it will do is turn red while a face will swell up, and cut and bruise.

Why do I find myself trying to defend my play smh lol. Just like I invited the last guy. I'll invite you too. Play me brah, and then judge for yourself. Another thing man this game is not real life. I think allot of players trick themselves in believing these games are real. Of course I wouldn't be able to land that many body punches in real life, my opponents kidneys would have been bleeding internally and both our faces would have been severely disfigured.

I think I have I different view on what spamming is. My definition of spamming is when you got a player who has no skills, is mashing buttons, and is purposely taking advantage of the games flaws to get a cheap win. I don't use buttons, and its pretty hard to spam with the "sticks". ANd if I was spamming
I would have been out of stamina way before the the tenth. When I fight I look for openings, I counter, I cutt off the ring, I don't wast punches, I don't look for cheap wins, nor do I purposely try to exploit the game. I push the pace. If thats spamming brah then we definitely have a difference of opinion. So your telling me because the "sexier" punch looks good, its more credible than a body punch??? I would say you don't know nothing about boxing or have never been in a ring in your life. So if I landed 200 straights then you would consider that spamming too I'm guessing smh. If my opponent is leaving himself open for shots then what I do is try to exploit them. He did too, I left myself open as far as my face goes, and didn't use enough head movement. Hey man I'll say again, play me if you want, I guarantee you'll have a difference of thought after your done with me.