Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

[ThuggyD55]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Well this is just ****.
I'm trying to make it in this sport and if stuff like this keeps happening,
all my training will be for nothing.
It probably already is.

[Jukeman]

You should take up Kickboxing instead ^_^

[Leon]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Isn't it about time to get rid of judges in boxing and just go by stats to determine the winner if it goes the distance? Compubox already tracks everything.

Punches landed, Punch %, Power Shots landed, Power Shot % etc. along with knockdowns and staggers (to be determined by video evidence). Whoever has the higher total score wins.

Save the judges for talent shows, not sports. And no way in hell does anyone in their right mind believe what these judges are saying when hall of fame boxers themselves (along with 90+% of the world) watched Pacquiao dominate Bradley.

[Aggies7]

Isn't it about time to get rid of judges in boxing and just go by stats to determine the winner if it goes the distance? Compubox already tracks everything.

Punches landed, Punch %, Power Shots landed, Power Shot % etc. along with knockdowns and staggers (to be determined by video evidence). Whoever has the higher total score wins.

Save the judges for talent shows, not sports. And no way in hell does anyone in their right mind believe what these judges are saying when hall of fame boxers themselves (along with 90+% of the world) watched Pacquiao dominate Bradley.

I completely agree. That was a waste of my Saturday night watching that.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Rigged!!! Bulls**t. Manny was feeding ol' dude straight lefts to the grill the whole damned fight. Boxing can kiss my black ***. I'm watching MMA only from now on when it comes to combat sports. The only boxing match I will watch from now on is IF Manny & Floyd fight. Other than that, boxing can eat a dick.

Because we never get any of this sort of controversy in MMA right?

From what I can see you're not even a boxing fan anyway so good riddance, I hope you enjoy your MMA

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Isn't it about time to get rid of judges in boxing and just go by stats to determine the winner if it goes the distance? Compubox already tracks everything.

Punches landed, Punch %, Power Shots landed, Power Shot % etc. along with knockdowns and staggers (to be determined by video evidence). Whoever has the higher total score wins.

Save the judges for talent shows, not sports. And no way in hell does anyone in their right mind believe what these judges are saying when hall of fame boxers themselves (along with 90+% of the world) watched Pacquiao dominate Bradley.

You could be on to something here but there are problems, computers can't understand the intricacies of boxing and I'm not certain if compubox is 100% reliable. Also this would completely change the way boxing fights are fought, if they used a computerised system like this boxers might fight more tentatively in order to have less punches landed against them and be less likely to throw in case they didn't connect.So I'm not sure if solely using compubox is the way forward.

I think a better option would be for the judges to be througly trained and tested before they can judge. I don't know if its corruption, more likely they are just incompetant and I think something like this would help. Maybe even make it so that they need to hve some level of boxing experience, even if its just some training as part of a course.

Building on what you said I think it would be ideal, if we had better judges who then incorporated the compubox stats into their decision rather than it making the decision.

[Leon]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

You could be on to something here but there are problems, computers can't understand the intricacies of boxing and I'm not certain if compubox is 100% reliable. Also this would completely change the way boxing fights are fought, if they used a computerised system like this boxers might fight more tentatively in order to have less punches landed against them and be less likely to throw in case they didn't connect.So I'm not sure if solely using compubox is the way forward.

I think a better option would be for the judges to be througly trained and tested before they can judge. I don't know if its corruption, more likely they are just incompetant and I think something like this would help. Maybe even make it so that they need to hve some level of boxing experience, even if its just some training as part of a course.

Building on what you said I think it would be ideal, if we had better judges who then incorporated the compubox stats into their decision rather than it making the decision.

You're right in that it would probably change the way boxers fight and that compubox may not necessarily be able to interpret the "finer points" of boxing. I just honestly think that radical change has to be made to this sport. Outside of a KO, there has to be a clear and easy-to-understand way to determine the winner.

The opinion of 3 people just doesn't cut it when experts and pro boxers are calling you wrong/corrupt/incompetent.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

You're right in that it would probably change the way boxers fight and that compubox may not necessarily be able to interpret the "finer points" of boxing. I just honestly think that radical change has to be made to this sport. Outside of a KO, there has to be a clear and easy-to-understand way to determine the winner.

The opinion of 3 people just doesn't cut it when experts and pro boxers are calling you wrong/corrupt/incompetent.

I completely agree, the quality of judging is pathetic. Something has to be done.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Whats funny is that I basically was stating that PacRoid wasn't fighting and was letting Bradley be the aggressor during the fight over AIM -- something all of us in boxing know wins you a lot of rounds. PacRoid stood there for most of the round and waited until the last minute to start throwing flurries. When Bradley stopped moving later in the fight, PacRoid wasn't as effective. I think the judges gave Bradley rounds because he was more aggressive. You take PacRoids flurries away and you'll see that he really didn't do too much. I don't think he should of loss, he did do enough to at least win and those flurries still count, but when your the champ you have to bring the fight to Bradley.

This L is exactly what PacRoid deserved -- next time he gets an opponent, I hope he respects him enough to not delay a fight because of a basketball game -- karma is a ***** and Manny just found out that she's pregnant.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Whats funny is that I basically was stating that PacRoid wasn't fighting and was letting Bradley be the aggressor during the fight over AIM -- something all of us in boxing know wins you a lot of rounds. PacRoid stood there for most of the round and waited until the last minute to start throwing flurries. When Bradley stopped moving later in the fight, PacRoid wasn't as effective. I think the judges gave Bradley rounds because he was more aggressive. You take PacRoids flurries away and you'll see that he really didn't do too much. I don't think he should of loss, he did do enough to at least win and those flurries still count, but when your the champ you have to bring the fight to Bradley.

This L is exactly what PacRoid deserved -- next time he gets an opponent, I hope he respects him enough to not delay a fight because of a basketball game -- karma is a ***** and Manny just found out that she's pregnant.

Mate your not a boxing fan, your a floyd mayweather nuthugger. PacRoid?

[atomant94]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Boxing need to follow the MMA in these aspects:

1. Have a wise person run boxing (ex. Dana White In The UFC)

2. Get rid of Boxing associations

3. Better Judges

4. Get rid of extra Weight-Classes (ex. Super Middleweight, Super Welterweight)

5. AND FINALLY.... GET RID OF THE CORRUPTION!

[Control-X]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Boxing need to follow the MMA in these aspects:

1. Have a wise person run boxing (ex. Dana White In The UFC)

2. Get rid of Boxing associations

3. Better Judges

4. Get rid of extra Weight-Classes (ex. Super Middleweight, Super Welterweight)

5. AND FINALLY.... GET RID OF THE CORRUPTION!

... but who will tie the bell around the neck of the cat?

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Isn't it about time to get rid of judges in boxing and just go by stats to determine the winner if it goes the distance? Compubox already tracks everything.

Punches landed, Punch %, Power Shots landed, Power Shot % etc. along with knockdowns and staggers (to be determined by video evidence). Whoever has the higher total score wins.

Save the judges for talent shows, not sports. And no way in hell does anyone in their right mind believe what these judges are saying when hall of fame boxers themselves (along with 90+% of the world) watched Pacquiao dominate Bradley.

No.

Because volume punchers like Paul Williams would go undefeated.

A computer can't track the impact of a punch.

Boxing needs a complete overhaul. A federal investigation and oversight is needed. Can't leave it up to the states anymore because all they care about is bringing income to their cities and then they wipe their hands of all the mess that's left in the ring.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Mate your not a boxing fan, your a floyd mayweather nuthugger. PacRoid?

Sir, you do know the post you quoted had nothing to do with Mayweather correct? Does not liking Manny automatically enroll me into the Mayweather camp? I am a Mayweather fan but saying Manny is on roids doesn't only come from PBF fans, it comes from quite a few fans across boxing. What Manny does with fluctuating his weight and keeping that speed and power is unheard of -- you can thank other sports but when these 'unicorns' pop up most people are thinking steriods. Thats the nature of the beast my friend.

Oops. ***** spotted. It's the same thing as calling Floyd the Flomo, Floydiot, Gayweather, etc. and Pacquiao as Pacturd and now Pacroid. LOL.

Never knew there were 9 year old kids joining in here.

I'm sorry if I offended you sir.

[N51_rob]

Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

Why are boxing judges so old anyways. These are the same people that when driving are going about 5-10 mph slower than posted speeds. 71 and 74 year olds need to be living in Florida not "watching" and "judging" championship prize fights.