Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

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  • JerzeyReign
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 4847

    #91
    Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

    Originally posted by N51_rob
    Why are boxing judges so old anyways. These are the same people that when driving are going about 5-10 mph slower than posted speeds. 71 and 74 year olds need to be living in Florida not "watching" and "judging" championship prize fights.
    I thought this was just a 'Jersey thing' -- our goal is to get rich/old and move to Florida, lol
    #WashedGamer

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    • Control-X
      Pro
      • Aug 2010
      • 600

      #92
      Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

      Originally posted by JerzeyReign
      Sir, you do know the post you quoted had nothing to do with Mayweather correct? Does not liking Manny automatically enroll me into the Mayweather camp? I am a Mayweather fan but saying Manny is on roids doesn't only come from PBF fans, it comes from quite a few fans across boxing. What Manny does with fluctuating his weight and keeping that speed and power is unheard of -- you can thank other sports but when these 'unicorns' pop up most people are thinking steriods. Thats the nature of the beast my friend.
      We all know Manny is a Filipino. I cannot name a Filipino boxer or athlete who's into steroids yet. Nonito Donaire? Mark Muñoz? If your suspicions are true then Manny could become the first Filipino to ever use that stuff. It's funny some people think Pacquiao is like Popeye who becomes strong only if he eats his spinach.

      Well, I heard Manny eats malunggay (known as moringa). It's his favorite and old folks say they're more effective than any steroids available. That maybe his poor man's equivalent to Popeye's spinach.
      Last edited by Control-X; 06-11-2012, 09:46 AM.

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      • JerzeyReign
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 4847

        #93
        Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

        ^ Hit me up on AIM so I can respond to this.
        #WashedGamer

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        • TheShizNo1
          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
          • Mar 2007
          • 26341

          #94
          Those talking about judging in MMA, at times it's just as bad. It just hasn't happened in a championship fight, I believe.

          Dana tweets about horrible judges and how he doesn't pick them, all the time.

          It also helps that MMA isn't under suspicion of being rigged.
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          • The Bad Man
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 489

            #95
            Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

            Originally posted by Control-X
            Well, I heard Manny eats malunggay (known as moringa). It's his favorite and old folks say they're more effective than any steroids available. That maybe his poor man's equivalent to Popeye's spinach.
            so it's worse than taking steroids. if that's the case then let's ban the pacman for eating malunggay or whatever that thing is.

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            • marq
              Pro
              • Jul 2003
              • 549

              #96
              Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

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              • aaron.home.dunk.hit
                Rookie
                • Jun 2012
                • 9

                #97
                Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                Its may well of been rigged but what goes around comes around after he lost his fight before that but got given the win its only what he really deserves

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #98
                  Why doesn't Arum want PAC to fight Floyd?

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                  • N51_rob
                    Faceuary!
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 14805

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Jukeman
                    Why doesn't Arum want PAC to fight Floyd?
                    Because he HATES Floyd and Golden Boy with a passion. Don't forget how Manny took 250K cash from GBP before he flipped to Arum, there was a law suit and all. Bad Blood runs deep there.

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                    • Leon
                      An Old Trafford
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4981

                      #100
                      Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                      Pacquiao has stayed at this weight class since De La Hoya so I don't understand this whole "he's been going up and down in weight for years! Must be taking 'roids" talk.

                      Fact is, nothing's been proven against Pacquiao. I'm not an expert on steroids, but I would suspect he'd be knocking more people out than he has been lately if he were on it.
                      "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

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                      • ThuggyD55
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 71

                        #101
                        Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                        Originally posted by Vinzanity
                        @Thuggy go MMA then invade UFC!
                        I just might. They just started offering Brazilian Ju Jitsu in my area.
                        If I get it down, I could be a mixed martial artist.

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                        • BatsareBugs
                          LVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12553

                          #102
                          Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                          Originally posted by Leon
                          Pacquiao has stayed at this weight class since De La Hoya so I don't understand this whole "he's been going up and down in weight for years! Must be taking 'roids" talk.

                          Fact is, nothing's been proven against Pacquiao. I'm not an expert on steroids, but I would suspect he'd be knocking more people out than he has been lately if he were on it.
                          I remember seeing somewhere that both Pacquiao and Mayweather have jumped through nearly the same amount of weight classes throughout their careers, but Mayweather's jump came at a slightly younger age.

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                          • MattyEdgeworth
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 570

                            #103
                            Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                            Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                            Sir, you do know the post you quoted had nothing to do with Mayweather correct? Does not liking Manny automatically enroll me into the Mayweather camp? I am a Mayweather fan but saying Manny is on roids doesn't only come from PBF fans, it comes from quite a few fans across boxing. What Manny does with fluctuating his weight and keeping that speed and power is unheard of -- you can thank other sports but when these 'unicorns' pop up most people are thinking steriods. Thats the nature of the beast my friend.
                            Yes but I can instantly tell by the PacRoid comment that you are a 'flomo' as much as I hate those stupid terms.

                            Touching on the 'unicorn' nonsense, you may find this interesting-



                            Mayweather at 16 years old was fighting at 106 lbs, and has fought as high as 154lbs — and Pacquaio at 16 years old was fighting at 106lbs and now fights at 147. There are minor differences regarding when the weight gains happen- but they have essentially done the same thing. The only difference is that Mayweather was in the amateurs when he was 16 and Pacquaio was a professional, for some reason that makes a difference.


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                            • NINJAK2
                              *S *dd*ct
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 6185

                              #104
                              Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                              Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                              Scrap the whole Commission. Nothing to do with them being up in age.

                              I don't even like Pacquiao and I felt he dominated the fight. I felt he slaughtered him. Early in the fight I actually started feeling sorry for Bradley as he was clearly in over his head.

                              I think Max said mid-fight, "this is the difference between a good fighter and a great fighter".

                              Pacquiao was throwing wildly? Yes. He always does.

                              The punches that Bradley threw were just slaps to the gloves. I only counted 2 clean hits that Bradley landed in the whole fight. One was a sharp right counterpunch.

                              They need to completely change the way boxing matches are judged.
                              I agree. I watched this fight for free at Buffalo Wild Wings and the place was standing room only. When they announced the decision the whole place shouted "WTF" and put their hands in the air in unison like a damn flash mob. No one in that place thought Bradley came close to winning. I personally thought Manny won 9 or 10 out of the 12 rounds and when they annonced that 1st score I became a little concerned about the judges ability to score a fight. I really had not seen a decision that bad since Roy Jones Jr got screwed in the Olympics some time ago. I thought the fight was that one-sided.

                              I've been hoping for years that boxing employ former boxing pros, trainers, boxing sportswriters as judges-Primarily those that were able to hold on to their cash upon retirement meaning they can't be touched by outside influences. Guys like Leonard, Hagler, Foreman, Roy Jones, Teddy Atlas, Lennox Lewis, etc. This would probably never happen but it would be cool to see..At the very least for fights of this magnitude if not across the board.
                              Last edited by NINJAK2; 06-11-2012, 05:32 PM.
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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #105
                                Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                                Originally posted by NINJAK2
                                I agree. I watched this fight for free at Buffalo Wild Wings and the place was standing room only. When they announced the decision the whole place shouted "WTF" and put their hands in the air in unison like a damn flash mob. No one in that place thought Bradley came close to winning. I personally thought Manny won 9 or 10 out of the 12 rounds and when they annonced that 1st score I became a little concerned about the judges ability to score a fight. I really had not seen a decision that bad since Roy Jones Jr got screwed in the Olympics some time ago. I thought the fight was that one-sided.

                                I've been hoping for years that boxing employ former boxing pros, trainers, boxing sportswriters as judges-Primarily those that were able to hold on to their cash upon retirement meaning they can't be touched by outside influences. Guys like Leonard, Hagler, Foreman, Roy Jones, Teddy Atlas, Lennox Lewis, etc. This would probably never happen but it would be cool to see..At the very least for fights of this magnitude if not across the board.
                                I'd stay away from former pro boxers as they've been around too many leeches for too long. Not saying they wouldn't/couldn't be fair but just the air of suspicion would always be there.

                                Now I wouldn't mind a revolving door of boxing sportswriters.

                                I also feel that there should be some sort of post-fight review by a second set of judges.

                                Hold up the purse until the average score is in range with the fight score.

                                Sounds weird but there definitely needs to be a secondary review IMO.

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