Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

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  • edaddy
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 2848

    #136
    Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

    Originally posted by Vni
    Pacman won't let the judges fool him twice. He's gona finish the guy.

    Actually I think it will be a much tougher fight for Pac simply because bradley found some success by countering a staying on the move. I dont think Pac will put him away as Bradley proved to me that he has a chin and is very crafty as far as surviving,at this point Bradley doesnt have enough power to get Pacs respect so Pac will come forward but bradley will counter. I look for a Pac decisicion as he stays busy the whole fight...
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    • MattyEdgeworth
      Pro
      • Oct 2011
      • 570

      #137
      Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

      Originally posted by edaddy
      Actually I think it will be a much tougher fight for Pac simply because bradley found some success by countering a staying on the move. I dont think Pac will put him away as Bradley proved to me that he has a chin and is very crafty as far as surviving,at this point Bradley doesnt have enough power to get Pacs respect so Pac will come forward but bradley will counter. I look for a Pac decisicion as he stays busy the whole fight...
      yes, It isn't as simple as just 'Pacman will decide to knock him out this time....'


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      • N51_rob
        Faceuary!
        • Jul 2003
        • 14805

        #138
        Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

        I just watched "The Fight Game" and while I don't think the judges got it right. Lampley mentioned the 7th round in which all three judges gave the round to Bradley. They showed it without commentary and I also think Bradley won that round. Pac hit him with the hardest punch of the round, but Bradley was the busier fighter and worked Manny into the ropes. CompuBox will say Manny landed more punches, but from watching that round with no commentary I can easily see why Bradly got that round on all three cards he was the busier fighter in the 7th and dictated the action.

        Doesn't change how I felt about the decision, but I can see how/why all three gave that round to Bradley.
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        • JerzeyReign
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          • Jul 2009
          • 4847

          #139
          Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

          Originally posted by Vni
          Pacman won't let the judges fool him twice. He's gona finish the guy.
          But who is going to fork over $55 or whatever ya'll pay in the States to watch it?
          #WashedGamer

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #140
            Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

            Originally posted by N51_rob
            I just watched "The Fight Game" and while I don't think the judges got it right. Lampley mentioned the 7th round in which all three judges gave the round to Bradley. They showed it without commentary and I also think Bradley won that round. Pac hit him with the hardest punch of the round, but Bradley was the busier fighter and worked Manny into the ropes. CompuBox will say Manny landed more punches, but from watching that round with no commentary I can easily see why Bradly got that round on all three cards he was the busier fighter in the 7th and dictated the action.

            Doesn't change how I felt about the decision, but I can see how/why all three gave that round to Bradley.
            I don't think I've ever seen so many soft jabs (by Bradley) blocked. But Pac didn't do much either.

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            • N51_rob
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              • Jul 2003
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              #141
              Yeah, that is kinda what I'm saying for as mad as some are with the scores that 7 round was hard to score. Pac wasn't really busy but hit Bradley with 3-4 hard shots, Bradley didn't thump Pac with any really hard shots, but he seemed to dictate the action.

              If all three gave that round to Manny I wouldn't be mad and I'm not mad they gave it to Bradley. If that makes sense.

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              • sox73b3
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                • Feb 2003
                • 412

                #142
                Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                I finally watched the fight last night. I thought Manny won the fight but by a very slight margin.

                After reading all of the accounts of the fight I expected it to be a more obvious poor decision. I have seen much worse than this, I don't blame the judges at all. In fact, I give the judges credit for not letting the crowd influence them. I thought Bradley fought a good fight and finished strong by winning the last 3 rounds.

                Also, the commentary from HBO was awful. It was a Manny love fest, they kept talking about Pacquiao and were missing some of Bradley's better exchanges and I can't stand Harrold Lederman.

                I always thought Pacquiao would beat Mayweather and actually was looking forward to watching him do it someday. But based on how Bradley fought him I think Mayweather could beat him by fighting a similar fight.

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #143
                  Yea watching the fight Live, Bradley looked bad (broken ankle and all) but with the little punches (little for a Pac Man fight) Pac threw and landed were big ones and definitely was emphasize more by the commentary team.

                  I did notice Pac being non aggressive later in the fight and when the CompuBox came out, I wasn't shocked at the decision anymore but still think Manny won.

                  If people watch the fight on mute while knowing how judges been scoring fights recently, then yea they'll notice the decision wasn't really a slap in the face of boxing.

                  I still think Manny won that fight and it's surprising that he didn't since the champs never lose a bout like that (you have to beat the champ is what have been the trend)

                  It wasn't a split but it definitely wasn't a dominate performance by Pac.

                  Pac loss the fight, Bradley didn't win it.
                  Last edited by Jukeman; 06-19-2012, 04:07 PM.

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                  • BOSsTOwN
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 788

                    #144
                    Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

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                    • sox73b3
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 412

                      #145
                      Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                      Great Video.

                      I am glad I am not the only one who noticed, seemed even more over the top than usual.

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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #146
                        Well that should stop the conspiracy theories

                        I actually gain a lil (just a little) interest for Brad/Pac II

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                        • Artman22
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 4985

                          #147
                          Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                          Great video!! I noticed how none of the PAC fans claiming he was robbed have said anything about this video. It's easy to be influenced when HBO IS BEING BIASED...
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                          • steelcityjames
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 877

                            #148
                            Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                            i had it 117-111 for Pac .... i "trained" myself to tune out boxing commentators several years ago. they're way too busy talking among themselves to pay attention to what BOTH fighters are doing at all times. with that said, it was a terrible decision.

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                            • JayBee74
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #149
                              Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                              Originally posted by Art1bk
                              Great video!! I noticed how none of the PAC fans claiming he was robbed have said anything about this video. It's easy to be influenced when HBO IS BEING BIASED...
                              Not a Pac fan, and haven't had time to see the fight other than the 7th round.

                              If HBO is being so biased why does the overwhelming consensus say that Pac won and he won easily? They were influenced by HBO's call?

                              Andre Ward went so far as to say Bradley should give the belt back to Pacquiao.

                              Max Kellerman predicted a Bradley win, but after the fight said that Pac definitively won seven rounds, Bradley definitively won one round, and four rounds were up for grabs. What was his motivation? To be wrong about his prediction?

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                              • N51_rob
                                Faceuary!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 14805

                                #150
                                Re: Pacquiao vs Bradley: rigged or not rigged?

                                So who here didn't already know that HBO's commentators have an favorite in each fight and lean a particular way? This video isn't something I didn't already know and it's not something that is gonna change very much. When the fight is a big "event" I usually have people over and the TV volume is low. But this isn't anything new as it relates to HBO. I love getting DLing the fights that have Sky or BBC commentary when it its a non-brit fighting they do a much better job.

                                I still think Bradley lost, but re-watching the 7th round without commentary I can see why all three judges gave it to Bradley, but I also see how people could feel Manny won that round.
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