If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

[SHAKYR]

http://kwiksurveys.com/app/showpoll.asp?sid=xm92soeye5cdmau1553&qid=1553&new=true

Please take this poll.

[JayBee74]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I voted for 2K based on their PrizeFighter effort. Although shoddy in many respects, it was on the right track.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

Well if not EA then you have to go for 2K or the UFC Undisputed devs/THQ, I vote for THQ based on rubbish PrizeFighter was.

[SHAKYR]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

Well if not EA then you have to go for 2K or the UFC Undisputed devs/THQ, I vote for HQ based on rubbish PrizeFighter was.

You notice the poll has 2K/Visual Concepts combo? Visual Concepts had nothing to do with Prizefighter. 2K hired an outside source (Venom Games Inc.) to make that game. They should have used their in studio team. VC has a pretty good team who are great at the details of a sport.

[Money99]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

Sadly, I'm not sure there's enough money in the boxing video game world for another company to take a chance on it.
If EA couldn't make a go of it, with it's deep roster, I'm not sure anyone can.
Even the highly rated VB games haven't made a sequel for their Japanese fans in a long, long time.

Honestly, I think our best bet for a good boxing game may have to come in the form of a tablet, or Facebook game.

Imagine if someone took the Ring Kings engine and then added a deep career mode to it?
People would have to feed, train and manage their guy - all from the comfort of their PC on Facebook or some other app.
And when their fighter is ready they fight another online person's pugilist.
You could even have a stable of fighter.
It would be like Farmville for boxing nerds.

The Ring King engine and graphics are dated, but the engine is actually still pretty good and the graphics are perfect for a Facebook game.

Food for thought.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

You notice the poll has 2K/Visual Concepts combo? Visual Concepts had nothing to do with Prizefighter. 2K hired an outside source (Venom Games Inc.) to make that game. They should have used their in studio team. VC has a pretty good team who are great at the details of a sport.

That's good then, I'd go with them if its not the team behind PrizeFighter. I would have voted for EA because at least they have a base, something to work on but then again they;ve had their chances and each time they haven't given us simulation boxing.

I remember you from the Fight Night forum, do you still post there?

[JerzeyReign]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I voted for EA -- Fight Night is right there -- they just need to listen to the right guys in the community to get the game right.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I voted for EA -- Fight Night is right there -- they just need to listen to the right guys in the community to get the game right.

That's what I thought but you ahevto think that with all the other Fight Night and Knockout Kings games if they haven't got it yet they'll probably never get it right.

[SHAKYR]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

That's good then, I'd go with them if its not the team behind PrizeFighter. I would have voted for EA because at least they have a base, something to work on but then again they;ve had their chances and each time they haven't given us simulation boxing.

I remember you from the Fight Night forum, do you still post there?

Yeah, I post there from time to time. The forum is full of Mortal Kombat and Tekken wannabe boxing fans.

[JerzeyReign]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

That's what I thought but you ahevto think that with all the other Fight Night and Knockout Kings games if they haven't got it yet they'll probably never get it right.

Yeah, but I think its because they are not listening to the right guys -- like SHAKYR mentioned, their forum is full of the 'Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots' crowd.

If they zone out that crowd and attempt to make a simulation of the sport they will be fine. The game looks amazing -- just need to do a couple things to get the gameplay right. Also, the things FN needs to be a great game should be able to be accomplished in one cycle -- no overhaul needed -- they have a very solid foundation IMO.

[SHAKYR]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

Sadly, I'm not sure there's enough money in the boxing video game world for another company to take a chance on it.
If EA couldn't make a go of it, with it's deep roster, I'm not sure anyone can.
Even the highly rated VB games haven't made a sequel for their Japanese fans in a long, long time.

Honestly, I think our best bet for a good boxing game may have to come in the form of a tablet, or Facebook game.

Imagine if someone took the Ring Kings engine and then added a deep career mode to it?
People would have to feed, train and manage their guy - all from the comfort of their PC on Facebook or some other app.
And when their fighter is ready they fight another online person's pugilist.
You could even have a stable of fighter.
It would be like Farmville for boxing nerds.

The Ring King engine and graphics are dated, but the engine is actually still pretty good and the graphics are perfect for a Facebook game.

Food for thought.

The money is there it's just not enough fans are letting the companies know they will support them. I'm always harassing some gaming company and they say if the Internet speaks loud enough we will hear them. The Internet is a funny thing because it can make and break a game.
There are so many crappy games on the market so the gaming industry has the money to make a boxing game amist all the layoffs and companies closings.

Yeah, but I think its because they are not listening to the right guys -- like SHAKYR mentioned, their forum is full of the 'Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots' crowd.

If they zone out that crowd and attempt to make a simulation of the sport they will be fine. The game looks amazing -- just need to do a couple things to get the gameplay right. Also, the things FN needs to be a great game should be able to be accomplished in one cycle -- no overhaul needed -- they have a very solid foundation IMO.

EA producers aren't good at taking advise. They are experts at deception. I went to EA before Fight Night Round 4 and dropped a ton of ideas on them. I also had back and forth communication with them through email. These guys are stubborn.
I have 13 plus years of boxing experience and I thought they would listen to me. They just wanted somebody the Fight Night Community looked up to close by so it seemed like I supported their decisions.
Fight Night is too much of a hybrid game arcade/sim. They think sim/realism will not sell. They can't say or think this without actually trying first.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

Yeah, but I think its because they are not listening to the right guys -- like SHAKYR mentioned, their forum is full of the 'Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots' crowd.

If they zone out that crowd and attempt to make a simulation of the sport they will be fine. The game looks amazing -- just need to do a couple things to get the gameplay right. Also, the things FN needs to be a great game should be able to be accomplished in one cycle -- no overhaul needed -- they have a very solid foundation IMO.

Yeah you are probably right

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I have 13 plus years of boxing experience and I thought they would listen to me.

I defintely remember you now, it was a few years ago when I still posted there and I was only 15 Can't remember what my name was though....

You had a job as a sparring partner with some pros right?

[SHAKYR]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I defintely remember you now, it was a few years ago when I still posted there and I was only 15 Can't remember what my name was though....

You had a job as a sparring partner with some pros right?

I sparred with some contenders and champs back in the day. Some them weren't household names but it showed my experience.

I sparred with Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, Bobby Czyz, Jameel McCline, Howard Davis, to name a few. I'm training my son right now.

[MattyEdgeworth]

Re: If a company was making a new boxing, which one would you want?

I sparred with some contenders and champs back in the day. Some them weren't household names but it showed my experience.

I sparred with Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, Bobby Czyz, Jameel McCline, Howard Davis, to name a few. I'm training my son right now.

Ray Mercer and Shannon Briggs not bad at all

How old is your son?