Boxing videogame campaign, do you want another boxing game?

[threattonature]

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In the 70's you had Ali, Frazier etc.... Heavyweights ruled even though there were good lighter fighters like Duran, Galindez, Monzon & Napoles. 80's the heavys weren't as strong but every other division had a star!!!! Tyson was the last fighter everyone knew about. My aunt knows Tyson!!!! We talked about him in high school. At the same time, you still had Sugar Ray, Chavez & loads of good boxers.

Today you have a fairly bland heavy division, Manny, Floyd, & ...... that's about it. No one that people know.

I remember one week in the 90's there was a fight on espn , a fight on USA, a fight on CBS, one on ABC, one on hbo & the one on NBC on Sunday!!! No kidding!

PPVs killed the popularity. WIth so many TV/sports options no one wants to pay to watch fighters. I think PPV even killed interest in non-PPV fights cause now if someone isn't fighting on PPV it's like they are viewed as small time and people have no interest in their fights.

I think the sport's popularity can be raised if a fighter with a big name was willing to hold a card on a major network. While doing that include a few up and comers on the undercard. right now PPV isn't worth is since it is usually one huge fight and a bunch of complete no names. So if the main fight is a dud people will feel ripped off. They need to find ways to put 2-3 cards together. And not just on HBO or Showtime since they don't have nearly enough viewership to continue growing the sport.

[Paul316us]

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I don't know why noone likes Final fight champion I honestly loved that game.


I do want a new boxing game cus I want to play as Nigel benn

[Artman22]

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I don't know why noone likes Final fight champion I honestly loved that game.


I do want a new boxing game cus I want to play as Nigel benn

It's a fun game, but very arcade..


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[ThuggyD55]

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Speaking on the video game, we need a new game! Fight Night is way to unrealistic with the fighters cocking back before they throw punches and stuff like that.
And speaking on the popularity of the sport, I think it fell with all of these "supers" and "lights" they throw at the end of every weight class. It's kind of lame when you see everybody fighting with a belt and none of the elite fighters will fight each other because of a 5 lb weight difference.

[SHAKYR]

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Speaking on the video game, we need a new game! Fight Night is way to unrealistic with the fighters cocking back before they throw punches and stuff like that.
And speaking on the popularity of the sport, I think it fell with all of these "supers" and "lights" they throw at the end of every weight class. It's kind of lame when you see everybody fighting with a belt and none of the elite fighters will fight each other because of a 5 lb weight difference.

5 pounds can mean alot against a power puncher. When a boxer comes down in weight the majority of the time they lose something. A boxer moving up exposes himself to a boxer who's comfortable and provides a greater risk than previous opponents.
Boxers who box extremely well have a greater success rate than power punchers moving up against a punchers. Don't get it twisted weight does count.

[ThuggyD55]

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5 pounds can mean alot against a power puncher. When a boxer comes down in weight the majority of the time they lose something. A boxer moving up exposes himself to a boxer who's comfortable and provides a greater risk than previous opponents.
Boxers who box extremely well have a greater success rate than power punchers moving up against a punchers. Don't get it twisted weight does count.

It doesn't matter that much, where a 5 pound difference is significant. What you mentioned has nothing to do with the weight difference, it was more about people dropping weight. That's a completely different thing. As a boxer I know that when you drop weight, you're going to lose something, and when you move up, you're probably going to fight someone stronger than you, but that's the risk you're taking when you drop and fight someone who is comfortable at that weight.

[lesov]

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It doesn't matter that much, where a 5 pound difference is significant. What you mentioned has nothing to do with the weight difference, it was more about people dropping weight. That's a completely different thing. As a boxer I know that when you drop weight, you're going to lose something, and when you move up, you're probably going to fight someone stronger than you, but that's the risk you're taking when you drop and fight someone who is comfortable at that weight.

Agreed, come on - we all know that all these ridiculous extra weight classes are just there for more belts--more selling. But it might have worked in a past, now everyone has some belt, it is silly and not helping the sport in a any way.

[Money99]

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Agreed, come on - we all know that all these ridiculous extra weight classes are just there for more belts--more selling. But it might have worked in a past, now everyone has some belt, it is silly and not helping the sport in a any way.

Bingo.
What's even more ridiculous is that even with all these extra weight classes, we still have catch-weight fights.

I would love for boxing to drop about half of these divisions.
Some are separated by 4 lbs! Do we really need 3 weight divisions between 112 and 118???

Like you said, those 'super' and 'junior' divisions were all introduced to have more belts and allow fighters to duck real challenges.

Just imagine how incredible the Lt.Heavyweight division would be today if it absorbed all the super middleweights?
Or Middleweight absorbing all the jr middle's?

I'm also very much in favor of having fighters weighing in 2 or 3 hours before the fight.
Then guys would fight in their real weight classes. I watched Curtis Stevens some months ago and despite fighting as a middleweight he entered the ring at 174. Dude jumped up 2 weight classes in a 24-hour period.

[SHAKYR]

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Bingo.
What's even more ridiculous is that even with all these extra weight classes, we still have catch-weight fights.

I would love for boxing to drop about half of these divisions.
Some are separated by 4 lbs! Do we really need 3 weight divisions between 112 and 118???

Like you said, those 'super' and 'junior' divisions were all introduced to have more belts and allow fighters to duck real challenges.

Just imagine how incredible the Lt.Heavyweight division would be today if it absorbed all the super middleweights?
Or Middleweight absorbing all the jr middle's?

I'm also very much in favor of having fighters weighing in 2 or 3 hours before the fight.
Then guys would fight in their real weight classes. I watched Curtis Stevens some months ago and despite fighting as a middleweight he entered the ring at 174. Dude jumped up 2 weight classes in a 24-hour period.

You guys will get a boxer killed you can not compare today's boxers or athletes to pass athletes because the boxers are much stronger and some even bigger. The added weight classes has nothing to do with messing up boxing it's the promoters'

[lesov]

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I guess we are way off topic on the original thread. One weight class I would add is super weight. It is sad to have fight classes every 6 pounds below Heavy and then have 200lb guy fight 260lb guy. Yet, even in heavies very few get injured by weight disparity. If weight disparity really had a huge impact on health we would have a ton more sick heavies.

[SHAKYR]

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I guess we are way off topic on the original thread. One weight class I would add is super weight. It is sad to have fight classes every 6 pounds below Heavy and then have 200lb guy fight 260lb guy. Yet, even in heavies very few get injured by weight disparity. If weight disparity really had a huge impact on health we would have a ton more sick heavies.

You must not have actually listen to alot of heavyweights talk and be honest with yourself how active is a heavyweight in the ring today beyond the clinching? The heavier Heavies land and destroy or hurt their opponents badly when they do land.
I have been a part of boxing for many years and have seen weight make a difference. I remember when I fought a super heavyweight in an exhibition when I was an amateur boxer in the 90's. The weight difference really mattered. I was a knockout puncher and my punches just dazed this 365 pounder. I weighed 190(Heavyweight amateur).
Now, imagine a heavyweight or any other weight without head gear.

Yes, we will see another boxing game but I wouldn't totally hold my breath with EA right now.

It doesn't matter that much, where a 5 pound difference is significant. What you mentioned has nothing to do with the weight difference, it was more about people dropping weight. That's a completely different thing. As a boxer I know that when you drop weight, you're going to lose something, and when you move up, you're probably going to fight someone stronger than you, but that's the risk you're taking when you drop and fight someone who is comfortable at that weight.

I fought too. I was a decorated amateur and I had 3 pro fights. I sparred with a lot of contenders and champs of the 90's.

[threattonature]

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Agreed, come on - we all know that all these ridiculous extra weight classes are just there for more belts--more selling. But it might have worked in a past, now everyone has some belt, it is silly and not helping the sport in a any way.

I blame all the different championship organizations more than I blame all the weight classes. Even though I think a few could be eliminated. instead of a 6 pound seperation between them make it maybe a 10 pound difference.

[SPRINGS03]

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I definitely want another boxing game. I just definitely don't want EA Canada to do it. They screwed up FN 4 and champion IMO. Wish EA chicago would come back to work on it. For there time, Fight night 1-3 were amazing boxing games, and pretty realistic.

[jmarcguy]

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You can have the multiple divisions is there was one belt per weight class. Four champs per division is ridiculous.

[Money99]

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You guys will get a boxer killed you can not compare today's boxers or athletes to pass athletes because the boxers are much stronger and some even bigger. The added weight classes has nothing to do with messing up boxing it's the promoters'

I don't know Shakyr. I have a hard time believing that old time fighters like Ali, Greb, Ketchel, Robinson, etc wouldn't thrive today.
There is hardly any difference with boxers from 100 years ago compared to today simply because the training has barely changed.
They still run, spar, skip, hit the bag, etc.

It's not like football or basketball where back in the day, the players would drink beer on the couch during the offseason. Players today train 12-months a year and training methods and intelligence has soared. At one point, weight training was frowned upon in baseball.
But with boxing, the same training techniques have been around for hundreds of years.

A lot of the new weight classes have only been around for 50 years. Some even earlier like Super Middleweight which was dreamed up in 1986.
I have a really hard time believing that the 115lb Super Flyweight division was absolutely necessary to save the lives of those who could only choose between Bantamweight (118) and Flyweight (112).

These extra weights are nothing but a cash grab for promoters and for fighters to duck one another.

If safety is really a factor, then boxing should change it's rules to force fighters to weigh-in 2 hours before a fight.
As it is now, guys balloon to ridiculous weights 24-hours after weigh-in.
Gatti retired a fighter because despite fighting at 140, he came in at 160 while his opponent weighted 143. Gatti nearly shattered the guys face.
How is that fair or safe?

If you stick with 8 or 9 weight classes and force guys to actually weight their limit when they get in the ring, THEN you will not only see safer fights, but also a lot more exciting ones because you won't have dozens of good fighters hiding behind a fake weight class to avoid fighting the best of the best.