Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

[JayBee74]

Adonis is a big underdog as he goes from 168 to a shot at the WBC Light Heavyweight title. He's also a big puncher, but after seeing both fights with journeyman Darnell Boone he looks a little shaky, even at 6-1.

Anybody think he has a shot?

[steelcityjames]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

i think just about anyone has a shot vs Dawson at this point. not sure how focused and hungry Chad is anymore.....i guess we'll see. curious to see how he reacts if/when he feels Adonis' power after being KO'd by Ward.

[JayBee74]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

i think just about anyone has a shot vs Dawson at this point. not sure how focused and hungry Chad is anymore.....i guess we'll see. curious to see how he reacts if/when he feels Adonis' power after being KO'd by Ward.

Yeah, plus the outright beating that Ward give him. Andre just battered the dude inside. Of course Dawson was going down to 168, so that might have affected him.

[redsrule]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

Dawson just got destroyed...

[StankonYa]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

This fight reminded me of one of Mike Tyson's microwave fights.

The ref didn't have to stop it so fast though.

[Dos_Santos]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

This fight reminded me of one of Mike Tyson's microwave fights.

The ref didn't have to stop it so fast though.

Yeah he did. The brain was not connected to the body. He had a hard time getting his hands up and the ref even gave him a long count.

I know a few people who have been in Dawson's camp. He is not what I would say is a good dude. I would never wish harm on any fighter, but Dawson was on my short list for guys who need to be put in their place and ktfo (Dan Henderson, David Haye, etc...)

And something about seeing the Kronk colors do it was wonderful.

[redsrule]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

[m1ke_nyc]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

He straight rocked Dawson. Did not see that coming. Dawson was done. Couldn't lift his hands. And sorta fell into the ropes as he was saying he was OK. You could look at him and see he was rocked bad. Had the ref continued the fight Dawson would have lost by tko bout 15 seconds later if that.

[JayBee74]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

The super middleweight and light heavyweight divisions just got a lot more interesting.

This fight reminded me of one of Mike Tyson's microwave fights.

The ref didn't have to stop it so fast though.

Bottom line Dawson didn't want anymore.

[N51_rob]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

While I have no problem with the stoppage, I don't like it. Chad Dawson was the champ and he got caught clean, but he deserves a chance to fight his way out of the round. Think Khan/Garcia, it was a very similar punch that behind the ear/on the neck punch that is killing dudes. Khan fell almost the same way and managed to get out of the round. I have a very hard time with the ref "taking" Dawsons belt w/o even giving him a chance to make it out of the round. Not saying Dawson would've made it out, but he was the champion and IMO deserves a llittle more respect than that. I have to wonder if this fight was in Vegas would the first round have continued. Montreal isn't a friendly place for non-Canadian fighters it would seem.

Having said all that, I think the ref was justified in the stoppage, Dawson probably was gonna get swarmed and knocked down/out over the next 2 minutes. He did his job and even the biggest Dawson supporter can say he got robbed. I know that sounds like I am talking out of both sides of my mouth, but I beleive that the Champion should be given the benefit of the doubt especially in the early rounds of a fight, as most fighters are still tyring to work up a sweat and get their legs under them after all the pre-fight activities.

Is there a re-match clause between them?


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40 Second mark, Khan looked just as wobbly as Dawson when he got to his feet IMO.

[Dos_Santos]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

Disagree. In every instance that I recall Khan was able to put and keep his hands up when instructed by Bayless. He also did not fall back on the test as well. (going off memory).

What killed Dawson was he couldn't keep his hands up on the final test even with the ref giving him extra time.

[LakerFan56]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

Disagree. In every instance that I recall Khan was able to put and keep his hands up when instructed by Bayless. He also did not fall back on the test as well. (going off memory).

What killed Dawson was he couldn't keep his hands up on the final test even with the ref giving him extra time.

I think the ref asked Dawson if he was okay and Dawson didn't respond. The ref has to stop the fight if the fighter is not responding.

[N51_rob]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

Disagree. In every instance that I recall Khan was able to put and keep his hands up when instructed by Bayless. He also did not fall back on the test as well. (going off memory).

What killed Dawson was he couldn't keep his hands up on the final test even with the ref giving him extra time.

Your point about Khan's hands is a fair one. But usually the Ref will say, show me your hands or something to that effect, and give the fighter a chance. We have seen numerous times that a fighter worse off than Dawson be allowed the chance to grab and hold, take a knee do things in the ring to by themselves more time to continue the fight. (Especially the fighter that entered the ring with the belt) I've said in my post its a good stoppage, but I also think it was a quick stoppage. Why can't it be both?

It would seem that I'm in the minority here, but I still stand behind my belief that as the Champ Dawson has earned the right to atleast try to make it out of the round. Worst thing that happens is that Stevenson swarms him and the ref stops the fight 5 seconds later, because Dawson can't protect himself or return punches.

You see it differently, to each their own, I suppose.

Edit: Just saw someone posted the video below, Dawson was clearly nodding that he was alright, yet was never asked to put his hands up. Time and again we see fighters be asked 2 and 3 times to show me your hands and be allowed to continue. Its a way to buy precious seconds take as much time as you can before complying with the referees instructions. Again, good stoppage, but I believe whole heartedly that if this fight was in New Jersey or Vegas, Dawson gets to continue the fight.

[Big T120588]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

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[Dos_Santos]

Re: Chad Dawson VS Adonis Stevenson

Your point about Khan's hands is a fair one. But usually the Ref will say, show me your hands or something to that effect, and give the fighter a chance. We have seen numerous times that a fighter worse off than Dawson be allowed the chance to grab and hold, take a knee do things in the ring to by themselves more time to continue the fight. (Especially the fighter that entered the ring with the belt) I've said in my post its a good stoppage, but I also think it was a quick stoppage. Why can't it be both?

It would seem that I'm in the minority here, but I still stand behind my belief that as the Champ Dawson has earned the right to atleast try to make it out of the round. Worst thing that happens is that Stevenson swarms him and the ref stops the fight 5 seconds later, because Dawson can't protect himself or return punches.

You see it differently, to each their own, I suppose.

Edit: Just saw someone posted the video below, Dawson was clearly nodding that he was alright, yet was never asked to put his hands up. Time and again we see fighters be asked 2 and 3 times to show me your hands and be allowed to continue. Its a way to buy precious seconds take as much time as you can before complying with the referees instructions. Again, good stoppage, but I believe whole heartedly that if this fight was in New Jersey or Vegas, Dawson gets to continue the fight.

The ref said pick them up and he couldn't keep his hands up. Combine that with a glossy eyed look and back up against the ropes, the ref absolutely did the right thing by the books.

The main issue a ref has to evaluate is when the gloves are up, can he feel any resistance from the fighter. He has to stop the fight if after putting them against his chest and not getting for some sort of response and feedback. He really couldn't even get to that point and we pretty much at a 12 count.

He got zero from Dawson.

I have seen some awful and questionable stoppages in boxing and mma...this absolutely was not one of them.