Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

[fistofrage]

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I can definitely see "them" installing judges that will lean towards Manny in the decision because of the insane amount of money to be made in the rematches.

and it will probably go to decision because Mayweather hasnt knocked anyone out in over 10 years.

He ko'd Ortiz 4 years ago and TKO'd Hatton.

[allBthere]

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He ko'd Ortiz 4 years ago and TKO'd Hatton.

Ortiz was punching a man with his arms down not looking at his opponent, hardly a measure of power. Not saying he cheated just that we always need to remember the context.

Having said that I think it's possible for Floyd to catch manny rushing in with a straight right

[pietasterp]

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Ortiz was punching a man with his arms down not looking at his opponent, hardly a measure of power. Not saying he cheated just that we always need to remember the context.

Having said that I think it's possible for Floyd to catch manny rushing in with a straight right

Mayweather (legally) sucker-punched him, plain and simple. It's Ortiz's fault, but there's no question it was a sucker-punch.

Hatton was a glorified club fighter.

[redsrule]

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Mayweather (legally) sucker-punched him, plain and simple. It's Ortiz's fault, but there's no question it was a sucker-punch.

Hatton was a glorified club fighter.

He was far from a club fighter lol. He was a lineal champ that was undefeated going into that fight where Floyd absolutely obliterated him.

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[fistofrage]

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Mayweather (legally) sucker-punched him, plain and simple. It's Ortiz's fault, but there's no question it was a sucker-punch.

Hatton was a glorified club fighter.

Either way he got the KO, I was just refuting the claim he didn't have a KO in 10 years. I was a sucker punch, but Ortiz was being a sucker. Not sure why he thought trying to make out with Floyd during the match was a good idea. Hatton was just too small to be fighting Floyd. Hatton was still a champion, more than a club fighter IMO. DeMarcus Chop Chop Corley was a glorified club fighter and he came the closest to taking Floyd out that I have seen. If not for the bell Floyd would have gone down.

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[JODYE]

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I think you're mistaken. That was at the beginning of the 4th round in that fight, the bell had nothing to do with Floyd not going down.

In fact, Floyd ended up winning that round pretty convincingly.

[fistofrage]

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I think you're mistaken. That was at the beginning of the 4th round in that fight, the bell had nothing to do with Floyd not going down.

In fact, Floyd ended up winning that round pretty convincingly.

Yep, you are right. Corley tagged him early then punched himself out after about a minute of having Floyd on the ropes. It was one of the cleanest shots I have seen landed on Floyd though.

[ZB9]

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He ko'd Ortiz 4 years ago and TKO'd Hatton.

I forgot about Hatton. I stand corrected. I didn't count Ortiz because it wasn't exactly a normal KO.

Anyway, my point stands that it's rare for Floyd to win by KO.

[pietasterp]

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He was far from a club fighter lol. He was a lineal champ that was undefeated going into that fight where Floyd absolutely obliterated him.

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Either way he got the KO, I was just refuting the claim he didn't have a KO in 10 years. I was a sucker punch, but Ortiz was being a sucker. Not sure why he thought trying to make out with Floyd during the match was a good idea. Hatton was just too small to be fighting Floyd. Hatton was still a champion, more than a club fighter IMO. DeMarcus Chop Chop Corley was a glorified club fighter and he came the closest to taking Floyd out that I have seen. If not for the bell Floyd would have gone down.

Well, maybe club fighter is a bit harsh, but if you look at Hatton's career, it's not exactly a murderer's row of victories. I guess Collazo and Castillo are 2 solid victories, but other than that, whenever he fought anyone that you've ever heard of, he was knocked out. I liked watching him fight since he was an exciting action fighter, but he wasn't much more than a footnote at best.

[allBthere]

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Well, maybe club fighter is a bit harsh, but if you look at Hatton's career, it's not exactly a murderer's row of victories. I guess Collazo and Castillo are 2 solid victories, but other than that, whenever he fought anyone that you've ever heard of, he was knocked out. I liked watching him fight since he was an exciting action fighter, but he wasn't much more than a footnote at best.

I never liked his style because he held and grabbed too much for me. But I do respect what he accomplished in the ring.

The check left hook that floyd nailed him with sending him into the corner was a highlight show of skillz.

Manny just plain killed him with one punch.

I think the best we can hope for as fans is that floyd has trouble timing manny ... that will make the bout exciting in a realistic way to hope for. Sure people may want Manny to KO floyd with a spectacular KO and/or VICE versa, but to get a decent amount of action, manny will be busy and floyd will need to miss some counters and have to try and adjust and get a bit offensive to avoid losing rounds. THAT will make it interesting - if it's like the clottey fight it will be a cruise control decision for floyd because he's so much better than clottey at picking his shots and countering/timing.

[ZB9]

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Manny being a southpaw is probably a big advantage. Floyd's favorite technique, the shoulder roll, might not work as well because of that.

[fistofrage]

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Well, maybe club fighter is a bit harsh, but if you look at Hatton's career, it's not exactly a murderer's row of victories. I guess Collazo and Castillo are 2 solid victories, but other than that, whenever he fought anyone that you've ever heard of, he was knocked out. I liked watching him fight since he was an exciting action fighter, but he wasn't much more than a footnote at best.

He beat Kostya Tszyu and Tszyu crushed Judah. But he really wasn't big enough to fight welterweight and welterweight has been the premiere division IMO over the last decade. He fought some guys with some decent records but I have no idea if they were any good or not because I really don't follow the lighter divisions unless it's a title fight. Definitely think his name carried more weight in Europe.

[JayBee74]

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Hmmm... I thought Teddy Atlas had picked Floyd a few months ago if the fight was ever to happen. Yesterday or two days ago he went with Manny, citing his foot speed as something that will bother Mayweather.

[pietasterp]

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He beat Kostya Tszyu and Tszyu crushed Judah. But he really wasn't big enough to fight welterweight and welterweight has been the premiere division IMO over the last decade. He fought some guys with some decent records but I have no idea if they were any good or not because I really don't follow the lighter divisions unless it's a title fight. Definitely think his name carried more weight in Europe.

I was always under the impression, right or wrong, that he was propped up by a very vocal and well-traveling UK fan base which was largely responsible for his being in some highly visible fights.

Anyway, does anyone have a guess as to whether this fight will be on free the week following (as per usual)? It wouldn't surprise me if somehow it was like $30 the week after or some such nonsense...I will be traveling this weekend (not to Vegas, unfortunately) and likely to miss the original broadcast.

[lhslancers]

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I don't know if Mayweather wants to milk this for another fight or not but like all of his other fights this will be boring as hell. Mayweather wins 8 rounds. I am rooting for him to get his head taken off though.