Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao DEAL DONE

[Sgt_Carnage]

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Mayweather by decision...........then we'll have to sit back and listen to people whine because Mayweather didn't willingly stand in front of Pacquiao and let him tee off on him.

[JayBee74]

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Mayweather by decision...........then we'll have to sit back and listen to people whine because Mayweather didn't willingly stand in front of Pacquiao and let him tee off on him.

I wouldn't begrudge Floyd a victory for escaping and playing it safe, I'd just be mad at myself for paying $70-$80 to watch it. I don't know that Pac is good enough to force a fight out of Mayweather.

I don't think we're looking at an Ali-Frasier or a Leonard-Hearns 1, so a lot of the hype is just that. I may pass.

[Kashanova]

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I have Mayweather winning by decision. Should be an epic fight imo.

[fistofrage]

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This fight has fizzled out in my eyes. I will still see it, but typical Floyd, he books the fight when he knows he has the upper hand. He didn't want any of pac 3 to 5 years ago. Now he's 100% certain he wins this fight. Before there was a doubt.

The most important thing to Floyd is his undefeated record. The money is secondary.

Floyd wins this one easy. He'll just pick him apart. 118-110 on all cards.

[JayBee74]

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I have Mayweather winning by decision. Should be an epic fight imo.

I'd be astonished if this was an epic fight.

[fistofrage]

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I'd be astonished if this was an epic fight.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't an easy decision for Mayweather. It will be a whitewashing. Hopefully the undercard is good because this will be a snoozefest. Literally watching Floyd cruise down the stretch is going to make my eyes feel really heavy as it approaches 2am.

[SPRINGS03]

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This fight has fizzled out in my eyes. I will still see it, but typical Floyd, he books the fight when he knows he has the upper hand. He didn't want any of pac 3 to 5 years ago. Now he's 100% certain he wins this fight. Before there was a doubt.

The most important thing to Floyd is his undefeated record. The money is secondary.

Floyd wins this one easy. He'll just pick him apart. 118-110 on all cards.

Nah, floyd is older than pac, so waiting doesn't help him either. Unless he doesn't age. I've heard people saying this, and to me it just sounds like a way to discredit floyd and make an excuse for pacquiao losing. Because i'd seen the same people saying floyd was scared of pacquiao up until now.

Also 5 years ago when the fight was first talked about, manny would of had a 50/50 split if he had just agreed to the drug test and hadn't said some lie about being a afraid of needles. There's blame on both sides for it not happening, but people seem to forget this.

There shouldn't be any excuses, neither guy is younger, but they're BOTH still great fighters and they have BOTH aged some. May the best man win, simple.

[fistofrage]

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Nah, floyd is older than pac, so waiting doesn't help him either. Unless he doesn't age. I've heard people saying this, and to me it just sounds like a way to discredit floyd and make an excuse for pacquiao losing. Because i'd seen the same people saying floyd was scared of pacquiao up until now.

Also 5 years ago when the fight was first talked about, manny would of had a 50/50 split if he had just agreed to the drug test and hadn't said some lie about being a afraid of needles. There's blame on both sides for it not happening, but people seem to forget this.

There shouldn't be any excuses, neither guy is younger, but they're BOTH still great fighters and they have BOTH aged some. May the best man win, simple.

But I guarantee right now Floyd knows without a doubt he's the best man. 3 to 5 years ago, I think he had some doubt or at least a thought that Pac could actually beat him.

Pac has no chance in this fight.

[JayBee74]

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But I guarantee right now Floyd knows without a doubt he's the best man. 3 to 5 years ago, I think he had some doubt or at least a thought that Pac could actually beat him.

Pac has no chance in this fight.

Wow, you need to put your life savings on Floyd. You might get 1-2.

[pietasterp]

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Nah, floyd is older than pac, so waiting doesn't help him either. Unless he doesn't age. I've heard people saying this, and to me it just sounds like a way to discredit floyd and make an excuse for pacquiao losing. Because i'd seen the same people saying floyd was scared of pacquiao up until now.

I think the argument is that Floyd's defensive style isn't as susceptible to aging as Pacquiao's extreme high-volume work rate style is. While Mayweather's reflexes might be slipping as he ages, in general his ring savvy and frankly reputation will only get better with age, while Pac relied on an insanely high work rate and a high number of power shots, with his defense being a large output of punches; all of which worsen with age (in general). So while aging favors neither man, it diminishes Mayweather much less than it does Pacquiao. Or that's the argument, anyway. I guess we'll see if it's true.

For what it's worth, I think Mayweather would have beaten Pac at any point in their careers, but he did seem like he was ducking him back when the fight first started being mentioned. I actually think this is a rare case of both sides being right: Mayweather was ducking Pac, but he would have beaten them had they fought in 2009 or whenever.

Also 5 years ago when the fight was first talked about, manny would of had a 50/50 split if he had just agreed to the drug test and hadn't said some lie about being a afraid of needles. There's blame on both sides for it not happening, but people seem to forget this.

There shouldn't be any excuses, neither guy is younger, but they're BOTH still great fighters and they have BOTH aged some. May the best man win, simple.

I would slightly disagree that they're both still great fighters; I think Pac is still a really good, but no longer a 'great' fighter. It's been mentioned ad nauseum, but Pac is a power puncher who hasn't knocked anyone out in 5 years, and Mayweather has basically decisioned his way past chumps (for the most part) with his only KO in 6 years being Victor Ortiz off of an awkward break.

No matter the outcome, there will always be arguments. Just like the whole "had Tyson fought Lewis or Holyfield in his prime, he'd have beaten either guy" type arguments. No one can ever know. But at least we'll have a single data point in a few months. Unless it's close, then we'll get Mayweather-Pac 2, 3, 4...

[steelcityjames]

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i think this is a 50-50 fight. i think it goes the distance and will be a fairly close decision either way. 116-112 or 115-113...to say one fighter or the other has no chance is insane!

[fistofrage]

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Wow, you need to put your life savings on Floyd. You might get 1-2.

Nothings a sure thing, but its as sure as it gets. I'll put up $100 to your $50 if you want to take Pacman.

[JayBee74]

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Nothings a sure thing, but its as sure as it gets. I'll put up $100 to your $50 if you want to take Pacman.

That's my point. Nothing is a sure thing. I wasn't challenging you to put your money where your mouth is.

I'll pass. I'm not a fan of either fighter but couldn't favor Pacquiao. I'd be surprised, but not shocked if he won.

[fistofrage]

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That's my point. Nothing is a sure thing. I wasn't challenging you to put your money where your mouth is.

I'll pass. I'm not a fan of either fighter but couldn't favor Pacquiao. I'd be surprised, but not shocked if he won.

That's why I only bet $100. Did you ever see the documentary about Hearns vs. Leonard. People from Detroit were literally betting their houses on Hearns. This was back when a house in Detroit was worth something, well they lost their houses. Thousands made the trip to Vegas, most came home broke.

Anyway, I would never bet enough that it would make a difference in the long run if I won or lost, but I don't see Pac having any chance, there is no element of surprise in this fight. Floyd will have a plan and I don't see Pac having the power anymore to catch him, hurt him, and follow through and finish him. I also don't see Pac having the endurance and speed to smother him with 100 punches a round.

Basically that's the only way I see how someone can beat Floyd is have a thunder cannon of a punch and catch him, but the power guys are too slow to pull that off, or smother him with punches from all different angles and keep the heat on the entire fight. Anyone throwing less than 60 punches per round against Floyd is going to lose in a snoozefest.

I honestly think Floyd was ducking a prime Pac because he had speed, volume, and power. He was a nightmare for everyone, but maybe he was using performance enhancers, because he seemed to regress rather quickly.

[JayBee74]

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That's why I only bet $100. Did you ever see the documentary about Hearns vs. Leonard. People from Detroit were literally betting their houses on Hearns. This was back when a house in Detroit was worth something, well they lost their houses. Thousands made the trip to Vegas, most came home broke.

Years after the fight I think the wild Detroit betting was documented in HBO's "Legendary Fights" , at least that's when I first heard of it. Even though the fight settled in as a near pick em I thought Hearns would knock Ray out.