Fight Night Champion Added to the Xbox One Backward Compatibility Library

[WarMMA]

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So for just those 17 fighters, you would have to negotiate with 6 different promoters. All with different demands. All with different prices. Thats one of the biggest problems.

With the UFC deal, you have access to 500 fighters for one price. No chasing around promoters or managers to get them to sign the deal. No using your Business Affairs team to negotiate and draft 50-100 individual fighters deal. No juggling of a budget to make sure that all the money paid to fighters doesnt go over it.

Putting a boxing game together at the level of FNC is difficult and expensive. There are plenty of fighters who would be OK with doing it for free but I doubt anyone on that list would be willing to and those are the fighters the game needs.

Yh you have a point. Boxing isn't like the UFC where you just get the contract and have access to everything. Makes me wonder what the budgets where like for past FN games.

[aholbert32]

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I'd say EA's best hope for a broad consumer response would be to include Mayweather. Otherwise, an EA boxing game would maybe do a little better than their hockey franchise.

There needs to be a flare to the game that, right now, only Mayweather can bring. You can't use Tyson or Ali anymore.

I dont agree with that at all. FNC sold almost 2 million copies. NHL averages around 1 mil. The simple fact that this would be the first new boxing game in 7 years alone would drive sales alone. Its the same thing that happened with THQ's first Undisputed game. It is the highest selling MMA game of all time primarily because it was the first AAA MMA game made in years.

Mayweather could help but again you have to factor in the cost of getting him to sign against the number of sales he would bring to the game.

[SHAKYR]

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Boxing isnt dead. Only idiots try to push that narrative.

There is alot of money in boxing currently but that doesnt necessarily equate to video game sales. The reason Hearn got a huge TV deal and Arum got his ESPN deal is because live sports is a very valuable commodity right now. Its the same reason that WWE and UFC will sign billion dollar deals for TV rights in the US this year.

Hardcore boxing fans will buy a new boxing game no matter what. Outside of them, I'm sure there is a good amount of people who would buy a boxing game no matter who was in it. With that said, I think the roster matters to a lot of people.

Lets put aside the legends. Lets use the list that SVA91 posted of active fighters he wants to see. I assume that EA would be negotiating with their managers but lets say they try to do it through their promoters:

1. GGG (K2)
2. Canelo (Golden Boy)
3. Joshua (Matchroom)
4. Wilder (Haymon)
5. Loma (Top Rank)
7. Danny Garcia. (Haymon)
8 Mikey Garcia (Matchroom)
9. Thurman (Haymon)
10. Kell Brook (Matchroom)
11. Kovalev (Duva)
12. Tyson fury (Matchrrom)
13. Porter (Haymon)
14. Errol Spence (Haymon)
15. Pacqiao (Top Rank)
16. Crawford (Top Rank)
17. Rigondeaux(Top Rank)


So for just those 17 fighters, you would have to negotiate with 6 different promoters. All with different demands. All with different prices. Thats one of the biggest problems.

With the UFC deal, you have access to 500 fighters for one price. No chasing around promoters or managers to get them to sign the deal. No using your Business Affairs team to negotiate and draft 50-100 individual fighters deal. No juggling of a budget to make sure that all the money paid to fighters doesnt go over it.

Putting a boxing game together at the level of FNC is difficult and expensive. There are plenty of fighters who would be OK with doing it for free but I doubt anyone on that list would be willing to and those are the fighters the game needs.

Do you mind me using your post? I'm talking to boxers and managers. Many are my friend on social media.

[aholbert32]

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Do you mind me using your post? I'm talking to boxers and managers. Many are my friend on social media.

Thats fine with me.

[WarMMA]

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I dont agree with that at all. FNC sold almost 2 million copies. NHL averages around 1 mil. The simple fact that this would be the first new boxing game in 7 years alone would drive sales alone. Its the same thing that happened with THQ's first Undisputed game. It is the highest selling MMA game of all time primarily because it was the first AAA MMA game made in years.

Mayweather could help but again you have to factor in the cost of getting him to sign against the number of sales he would bring to the game.

Yh i'm sure it would be a pain in the arse to get Mayweather to sign, but he definitely would boost sales alot. People have wanted Mayweather in FN forever. Another thing I thought of too is what if they just made a remastered version of FNC. A version with current gen graphics, new current fighters added to the roster and maybe a new mode or two...wouldn't that cancel out some of the hassle?

[aholbert32]

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Yh i'm sure it would be a pain in the arse to get Mayweather to sign, but he definitely would boost sales alot. People have wanted Mayweather in FN forever. Another thing I thought of too is what if they just made a remastered version of FNC. A version with current gen graphics, new current fighters added to the roster and maybe a new mode or two...wouldn't that cancel out some of the hassle?

Dont think it would be worth it.

One, the same game with 4k graphics likely wouldnt be sold at the same amount as a new game. That equals less profits for EA.

Two, if you add new fighters and modes, an argument can be made that its a new game. Many of the fighters in FNC were signed for contracts specific to the game. For example, lets say I'm Roy Jones Jr and I signed a contract for FNC for 100k 8 yrs ago.

The minute I discover that there are new modes/fighters, I'm arguing that this is a new game even if you call it a remaster and I'm demanding that you either pay me or I'm going to sue. Typically when someone remasters something its to improve the graphical or audio quality...its not to change the content in any way.

[sva91]

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Dont think it would be worth it.



One, the same game with 4k graphics likely wouldnt be sold at the same amount as a new game. That equals less profits for EA.



Two, if you add new fighters and modes, an argument can be made that its a new game. Many of the fighters in FNC were signed for contracts specific to the game. For example, lets say I'm Roy Jones Jr and I signed a contract for FNC for 100k 8 yrs ago.



The minute I discover that there are new modes/fighters, I'm arguing that this is a new game even if you call it a remaster and I'm demanding that you either pay me or I'm going to sue. Typically when someone remasters something its to improve the graphical or audio quality...its not to change the content in any way.

Agreed. Licensing has to be a huge headache for EA. Has anyone heard any rumors of a new fight night ? I’ve been searching a bit. I’m really hoping we get some news during E3, but I figured some rumors would’ve leaked by now.


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[WarMMA]

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Agreed. Licensing has to be a huge headache for EA. Has anyone heard any rumors of a new fight night ? I’ve been searching a bit. I’m really hoping we get some news during E3, but I figured some rumors would’ve leaked by now.


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Nah. And if they do have plans to make a new one, probably won't be until after UFC 4 tbh.

[WarMMA]

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Dont think it would be worth it.

One, the same game with 4k graphics likely wouldnt be sold at the same amount as a new game. That equals less profits for EA.

Two, if you add new fighters and modes, an argument can be made that its a new game. Many of the fighters in FNC were signed for contracts specific to the game. For example, lets say I'm Roy Jones Jr and I signed a contract for FNC for 100k 8 yrs ago.

The minute I discover that there are new modes/fighters, I'm arguing that this is a new game even if you call it a remaster and I'm demanding that you either pay me or I'm going to sue. Typically when someone remasters something its to improve the graphical or audio quality...its not to change the content in any way.

Yh you're definitely right about that. Really hope we see a new one in the future though...or at least a remaster. If not, this would probably be the first console life cycle that an AAA boxing title hasn't been a part of.

[JayBee74]

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The FNC ratings commision ought to be fired for giving Sonny Liston a paltry 15 rating on his LEFT HOOK to the head.

[WarMMA]

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The FNC ratings commision ought to be fired for giving Sonny Liston a paltry 15 rating on his LEFT HOOK to the head.

I feel like both Sonny's hooks should have been maxed out. He was a good puncher and hit hard with anything, but hooks were his best punches imo.

[flyingokapis]

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Agreed. Licensing has to be a huge headache for EA. Has anyone heard any rumors of a new fight night ? I’ve been searching a bit. I’m really hoping we get some news during E3, but I figured some rumors would’ve leaked by now.


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I read somewhere that EA will be announcing a 'new sports' game at E3, I'd say a new boxing game would be considered 'new' as it has been 7yrs, my interpretation of 'new' was not fifa, madden etc.

Cant think of many other up and coming sports that EA dont already have or would be interested in..?

I'm hoping its a boxing game with a different name.

[JayBee74]

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Minor point but I wish FNC or a future game would have an automatic response to getting up from knockdowns based on chin and heart with stamina being a smaller factor.

[threattonature]

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Minor point but I wish FNC or a future game would have an automatic response to getting up from knockdowns based on chin and heart with stamina being a smaller factor.

Same here but for selfish reasons. I'm HORRIBLE at that mini game and if I get knocked down a second time in a fight it's pretty much a guaranteed KO.

[Money99]

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I read somewhere that EA will be announcing a 'new sports' game at E3, I'd say a new boxing game would be considered 'new' as it has been 7yrs, my interpretation of 'new' was not fifa, madden etc.

Cant think of many other up and coming sports that EA dont already have or would be interested in..?

I'm hoping its a boxing game with a different name.

Hope you're right and it's not hyperbole where it's actually NBA Live renamed or something.
I'd love it if it's either a new FNC or MVP.