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  • GameplayDevUFC
    Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
    • Jun 2014
    • 2830

    #346
    Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by godylla
    But at the same time, if you are using Ronda and I know she is great at armbars, shouldn't I have the ability to expect that it is coming more than just trying to time it in a window? By preloading a block, Ronda could transition to another position that I can't stop because I preloaded wrong. From there maybe the armbar is available and I am behind the 8 ball for guessing wrong in the beginning?

    As for $$$ luckily EA is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world (http://www.alux.com/richest-gaming-c...n-the-world/6/).
    But Ronda doesn't know you're doing it, so she can't take advantage of that fact at all.

    And yes, even without pre-denial you can anticipate she'll arm bar you. You can be poised to deny in that direction, and if you're right you'll hit it faster than trying to cover all directions. But you still have to time it.

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    • GameplayDevUFC
      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
      • Jun 2014
      • 2830

      #347
      Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
      But Ronda doesn't know you're doing it, so she can't take advantage of that fact at all.

      And yes, even without pre-denial you can anticipate she'll arm bar you. You can be poised to deny in that direction, and if you're right you'll hit it faster than trying to cover all directions. But you still have to time it.
      Like whack a mole with only one hole to worry about.

      A lot easier.

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      • godylla
        Rookie
        • Jan 2009
        • 305

        #348
        Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
        Like whack a mole with only one hole to worry about.

        A lot easier.
        Fair enough. But online is that window the same as offline? Even with the slightest lag, if the window is the same and I am anticipating it, I am **** out of luck.
        "Do or do not, there is no try."
        - Yoda

        "Don't give up, don't ever give up."
        - Jimmy V.

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        • GameplayDevUFC
          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
          • Jun 2014
          • 2830

          #349
          Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by godylla
          Fair enough. But online is that window the same as offline? Even with the slightest lag, if the window is the same and I am anticipating it, I am **** out of luck.
          It's the same, but in online we add an extra buffer to the window to account for your current (average) lag.

          Should help in all cases except massive lag spikes.

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #350
            Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Trevelyan
            I really enjoy the stand up portion of the game, the rest I'm not a fan of. If the knockout mode that's mentioned in the loading screens can be played online, I might end up purchasing UFC 2.
            Its offline only.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #351
              Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by linny
              umm and this is realistic?

              I never said the first one was perfect, I think this game is better than the first overall. the ground game is just not enjoyable.
              Yes it is actually. Real grappling isnt turn based. If you and I are grappling, I dont have to wait for you to try to move to side control and stop it before I can try to put you in full guard.

              UFC 1 was turn based and very basic. Thats why grappling sucked in that game imo. Offline, I can easily go from full guard to full mount with ease on the highest level. I had to make house rules that limited my ability to transitions in that game so that I could continue playing it.

              Whats funny is that I'm not even that good at UFC1 its that grappling is so simple and unrealistic that anyone can dominate.

              UFC 2's grappling isnt turn based and you actually have to think through moves you make. You have to be patient. You cant spam transitions successfully and you have know when and how to mix in strikes and when to block.

              Am I saying its perfect? Hell no. There are a few bugs that I would like fixed and I would love if they made it extremely difficult to get out of full mount with an escape.

              But its much better than any other game's grappling system and if you know what you are doing its very enjoyable. I was fighting Pappy this weekend and had a ball on the ground. Why? Because he actually is trying to learn the system (he's better than me when you mix in subs w/ grappling). He didnt have the benefit of playing the game early like me. He just played and practiced and got better.

              I'm seeing the same online. Thursday there was no one who could grapple. Now I'm running into plenty of people who have learned the system and love it.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #352
                Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by godylla
                But at the same time, if you are using Ronda and I know she is great at armbars, shouldn't I have the ability to expect that it is coming more than just trying to time it in a window? By preloading a block, Ronda could transition to another position that I can't stop because I preloaded wrong. From there maybe the armbar is available and I am behind the 8 ball for guessing wrong in the beginning?

                As for $$$ luckily EA is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world (http://www.alux.com/richest-gaming-c...n-the-world/6/).



                Doesnt mean EA would want to spend that money on their 4th biggest sports title though.

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #353
                  Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  [/B]


                  Doesnt mean EA would want to spend that money on their 4th biggest sports title though.
                  Are we fourth biggest?

                  Woo hoo!

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #354
                    Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                    Are we fourth biggest?

                    Woo hoo!
                    I'm expecting that this game will at least outsell Golf and NBA Live. LOL.

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                    • godylla
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 305

                      #355
                      Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      [/b]


                      Doesnt mean EA would want to spend that money on their 4th biggest sports title though.
                      That's true, but if it is a feature of the game that would help improve it, I'm not willing to readily accept that the budget from EA/UFC wouldn't be able to accomplish those tasks to make a better game.
                      "Do or do not, there is no try."
                      - Yoda

                      "Don't give up, don't ever give up."
                      - Jimmy V.

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                      • fballturkey
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2370

                        #356
                        Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                        It's the same, but in online we add an extra buffer to the window to account for your current (average) lag.

                        Should help in all cases except massive lag spikes.
                        Is that buffer there in the beta?
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                        • GameplayDevUFC
                          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2830

                          #357
                          Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by godylla
                          That's true, but if it is a feature of the game that would help improve it, I'm not willing to readily accept that the budget from EA/UFC wouldn't be able to accomplish those tasks to make a better game.
                          Every feature would help improve the game.

                          It all comes down to cost/benefit and fixed budgets.

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                          • GameplayDevUFC
                            Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2830

                            #358
                            Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by fballturkey
                            Is that buffer there in the beta?
                            Yes.

                            If you don't think it's working I'd be interested in knowing that.

                            It was in UFC 1 as well, but a completely different implemenation since we gutted the grappling.

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #359
                              Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by godylla
                              That's true, but if it is a feature of the game that would help improve it, I'm not willing to readily accept that the budget from EA/UFC wouldn't be able to accomplish those tasks to make a better game.
                              What reason would you have for that position? None of us other than GameplayDev have any idea what the budget is for this game or how much money EA is willing to put into it.

                              The only facts that we have is that the UFC series isnt even in the top 10 of EA's games when it comes to sales and that EA typically puts more resources into its bigger franchises like Madden and Fifa because those games sell more.

                              I'll give you another example. I work for Discovery. Its a billion dollar corporation. Now Discovery puts more money into its big networks like Discovery Channel and TLC than it does into small networks like Destination America. Most corporations arent going to pour big money into establishing a new product. The safe bet is to slowly build the smaller products and use the lionshare of your money to support and continue the success of the bigger products.

                              EA is likely no different than any other corporation.

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                              • Thetruth9012
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1287

                                #360
                                Re: EA Sports UFC 2 Beta Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                                I hope this time reversal are hard to pull in previous games from thq and ufc1 it was reversal spam...

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