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  • Boiler569
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 2006

    #136
    Re: 1/2 to the body spam

    If I'm elected gamechanger for EA UFC 3, I will pay for my flight and lodging. Really I would

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    • Bigg Cee
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4676

      #137
      Re: 1/2 to the body spam

      Originally posted by Boiler569
      If I'm elected gamechanger for EA UFC 3, I will pay for my flight and lodging. Really I would

      #GCElection2016
      Same here, i got extra flyer miles. So it's no big deal for me.

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      • Solid_Altair
        EA Game Changer
        • Apr 2016
        • 2043

        #138
        Re: 1/2 to the body spam

        Originally posted by Find_the_Door
        Too often I'll attempt to throw a straight but my opponent throws a jab just before and it makes my input not even register forcing a hitstun - making the game feel immensely unresponsive.
        B*, please! Your input registers. The kind of thinking in this paragraph is dangerous. It's precisely the kind of thinking that led to the rock'em sock'em of EA UFC 1.
        Last edited by Solid_Altair; 04-27-2016, 03:16 PM.

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        • Find_the_Door
          Nogueira connoisseur
          • Jan 2012
          • 4051

          #139
          Re: 1/2 to the body spam

          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
          B*, please![emoji23]Your input registers. The kind of thinking in this paragraph is dangerous. It's precisely the kind of thinking that led to the rock'em sock'em of EA UFC 1.
          No.

          Rock em sock em robots is the definition of the stand-up we currently have. They you can't move and strike at the same time.
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          • Phillyboi207
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 3159

            #140
            Re: 1/2 to the body spam

            Originally posted by Find_the_Door
            No.

            Rock em sock em robots is the definition of the stand-up we currently have. They you can't move and strike at the same time.
            You can tho

            Dashes cancel into strikes so i could hit you then side step and hit you.
            Or lean left then dash right and catch you with a hook

            A lot of stuff can be done if you're good with the dashes

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            • fishingtime
              Handling it
              • Aug 2013
              • 1738

              #141
              Re: 1/2 to the body spam

              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
              B*, please! Your input registers. The kind of thinking in this paragraph is dangerous. It's precisely the kind of thinking that led to the rock'em sock'em of EA UFC 1.
              It registers put doesn't play out right? Since it is a hit stun that stops the strike?
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              • Bigg Cee
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 4676

                #142
                Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                One last thing about the 1-2...

                Ever since they nerfed the head movement, and made body shots do more damage, it has made the head sway worthless now, unless it's a punch to the head your dodging you have no chance to sway without taking OP body blows. Also throw on top crazy Hi/low combos all game with success and you have a head sway that needs a buff now with all these body combos ppl are doing.

                (There was no need to nerf the head sway before patch)
                Last edited by Bigg Cee; 04-27-2016, 05:44 PM.

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                • Solid_Altair
                  EA Game Changer
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 2043

                  #143
                  Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                  Originally posted by fishingtime
                  It registers put doesn't play out right? Since it is a hit stun that stops the strike?
                  Yes. You're actually stunned because the input plays out. If you hadn't punched, his jab wouldn't have stopped you at all.

                  This is a super classic mechanic in arcade games. And it is the opposite of rock'em sock'em. Rock'em sock'em is when you hit the guy and he hits you without a chance for you to defend. But with in EA UFC 2, you can be safe if you hit the guy first either with something powerful enough, or hit him soon enough (with high strikes).

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                  • DLight03
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 31

                    #144
                    Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                    Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                    One last thing about the 1-2...

                    Ever since they nerfed the head movement, and made body shots do more damage, it has made the head sway worthless now, unless it's a punch to the head your dodging you have no chance to sway without taking OP body blows. Also throw on top crazy Hi/low combos all game with success and you have a head sway that needs a buff now with all these body combos ppl are doing.

                    (There was no need to nerf the head sway before patch)

                    I agree with this. I went from having swaying a regular part of my game and actually used perks like Pay-to-Miss and Untouchable, to not using at all, almost ever. Just no point when I can walk backwards and not get hit by anything, because the offensive opportunities created by slipping are not worth the body damage. I'm assuming this change was made in order to encourage using slips in other directions, which would be perfectly fine things like ducking and slipping to the side didn't get you hit by strikes it shouldn't. What made swaying back so effective was that it ACTUALLY WORKED. The other slip directions don't always slip the shots they're designed to slip.

                    Also, it used to be if you were taking body shots you can just uppercut your opponent and punish them for leaning in on you, but because now you deal reduced damage if a strike is landed on you prior to throwing within a short window, uppercuts are much less effective at stopping body spam. I'm not sure how this can be fixed.

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                    • fishingtime
                      Handling it
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1738

                      #145
                      Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                      Yes. You're actually stunned because the input plays out. If you hadn't punched, his jab wouldn't have stopped you at all.

                      This is a super classic mechanic in arcade games. And it is the opposite of rock'em sock'em. Rock'em sock'em is when you hit the guy and he hits you without a chance for you to defend. But with in EA UFC 2, you can be safe if you hit the guy first either with something powerful enough, or hit him soon enough (with high strikes).
                      Sweet! Thanks for the info. Do you know if the stamina for the strike is also deducted?
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                      • Bigg Cee
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4676

                        #146
                        Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                        Originally posted by DLight03
                        I agree with this. I went from having swaying a regular part of my game and actually used perks like Pay-to-Miss and Untouchable, to not using at all, almost ever. Just no point when I can walk backwards and not get hit by anything, because the offensive opportunities created by slipping are not worth the body damage. I'm assuming this change was made in order to encourage using slips in other directions, which would be perfectly fine things like ducking and slipping to the side didn't get you hit by strikes it shouldn't. What made swaying back so effective was that it ACTUALLY WORKED. The other slip directions don't always slip the shots they're designed to slip.

                        Also, it used to be if you were taking body shots you can just uppercut your opponent and punish them for leaning in on you, but because now you deal reduced damage if a strike is landed on you prior to throwing within a short window, uppercuts are much less effective at stopping body spam. I'm not sure how this can be fixed.
                        Well said bro, Very well said...

                        The head sway was a huge part of my game before patch, and now after patch I don't use it that much unless someone is just throwing bombs.

                        It needs to get a buff back to make it worth using again.

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                        • Bigg Cee
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4676

                          #147
                          Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                          Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                          No.

                          Rock em sock em robots is the definition of the stand-up we currently have.
                          UFC 2? lol

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                          • oshighwayman
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 357

                            #148
                            Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                            Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                            UFC 2? lol
                            yeah problem with this game is, that it wont allow u counterstriking, because if u attempt to do that u will be already in some mini stun from jabs and straights

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                            • Tyler_1873
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 149

                              #149
                              Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                              A combo takes more skill to pull of than a 'single well timed strike'.

                              I don't see the problem with the combo modifier. If you take 4 strikes in a row without blocking you deserve to be at least rocked.

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                              • Phillyboi207
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 3159

                                #150
                                Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                                Those hating on the sway clearly have no idea what they're talking about. They did a good thing nerfing back sway( just need to make it so body shots dont miss because of it). It actually takes skill to time your sways now instead of the scrubby leaning back to everything

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