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  • Bigg Cee
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4676

    #61
    Re: 1/2 to the body spam

    Originally posted by Phillyboi207
    Punches shouldnt stop TDs that's a fact

    I can understand complaints regarding that
    NO 1-2 should stop a takedown!!!

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    • JRed529
      Rookie
      • Mar 2012
      • 319

      #62
      Re: 1/2 to the body spam

      Originally posted by segap
      Ok what I'm trying to tell you is that the tactic you're describing works against lower level opponents , even some higher level opponents.
      But it will not work against someone who doesn't kick and sticks to a very formulated 1-2 combo over and over.

      I can avoid 3 strikes through using side steps and then go for a clinch and they will still be able to block it , someone can throw a punch at me while I'm going for a takedown and still be able to block it ....


      Here was a clip i posted recently where i set up a takedown


      here opponent misses
      opponent gets parried
      opponent throws another strike while my head is at their ****ing hip but they still manage to get it into sprawl position.

      My take down was also maxed while his TDD was 81.
      "You went for a slam takedown"
      Yes I did , because it was set up perfectly .... an evaded strike , a parried strike and a strike being thrown while I was mid takedown. If there is ever a time to slam takedown it's that .


      Like I don't have any videos showing the side step --> clinch denials but if i meet those opponents I'll get them. Because it generally a broken system. The strikers are given far too much lee way in denying clinches/take downs
      I agree that the clinch and td's are very easy to stop. This roots back to the opening weeks when everyone was crying about the clinch and takedowns. Well, the debs listened, and here we are.

      But that doesn't mean that body spamming 1 2s is a sufficient tactic, because it isnt.
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      • JRed529
        Rookie
        • Mar 2012
        • 319

        #63
        Re: 1/2 to the body spam

        Originally posted by Phillyboi207
        Punches shouldnt stop TDs that's a fact

        I can understand complaints regarding that
        Any well timed uppercut should definitely stop a td.

        A jab to the body, should not.
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        • Bigg Cee
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4676

          #64
          Re: 1/2 to the body spam

          Originally posted by JRed529
          Any well timed uppercut should definitely stop a td.

          A jab to the body, should not.
          Yup you read my mine, This is how it should be.

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          • Find_the_Door
            Nogueira connoisseur
            • Jan 2012
            • 4051

            #65
            Re: 1/2 to the body spam

            Originally posted by Phillyboi207
            That gif is the Nog user fault. You have to stay on the outside against Tyson

            Plus overhands/ hooks beat out straight punches on the same side.
            No, not when you're hit stunned to the body and can't even block let alone move.
            Originally posted by Mrbluray
            When will users start blaming themselves rather than the game? At what point will people stop looking for excuses for losing, like this game mechanic is broken or that game mechanic is broken, and just accept that they are not as good as their opponent at certain aspects of the game.

            We went through this with the clinch before, and now this.
            It's not about accepting the loss (read the OP) I clearly state there I had opportunities. This post is about the 1/2 to the body cheese. In that GIF I'm hit stunned, cannot block aside from the first jab landing and am completely frozen at that point - can't move, can't block, can't lean, can't punch.
            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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            • Find_the_Door
              Nogueira connoisseur
              • Jan 2012
              • 4051

              #66
              Re: 1/2 to the body spam

              Originally posted by Phillyboi207
              In real life no MMA fighter would be dumb enough to stand within boxing range of Tyson.

              I do believe that the 1-2 stopping TDs is ridiculous tho and a large part of the problem

              Rear hand straights also need to eat up more stamina
              Fighter selection isn't the point. You can do this with any fighter.
              Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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              • Find_the_Door
                Nogueira connoisseur
                • Jan 2012
                • 4051

                #67
                Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                Originally posted by JRed529
                Right....if you watch that gif, FTD is still blocking his head even after Tyson hits him with 76 body punches in a row.
                I blocked my head for the first punch and then was hit stunned for the remaining 14. Obviously I know to change my block up.
                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                • Bigg Cee
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4676

                  #68
                  Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                  Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                  Fighter selection isn't the point. You can do this with any fighter.
                  I said the same thing as you Find the door, it won't matter people have there mind made up.

                  If it makes you feel any better I agree with everything and I only play ranked matches like you so I know the truth about it.

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                  • fishingtime
                    Handling it
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1738

                    #69
                    Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                    I think removing the speed from strike levels would help with this. You already have a punching speed. Why would you add speed to the strike levels? This really looks goofy in UT. The speed should just be tied to your fighters strike speed. Let the levels increase damage able to be given with the strike.
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                    • Find_the_Door
                      Nogueira connoisseur
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4051

                      #70
                      Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                      Originally posted by fishingtime
                      I think removing the speed from strike levels would help with this. You already have a punching speed. Why would you add speed to the strike levels? This really looks goofy in UT. The speed should just be tied to your fighters strike speed. Let the levels increase damage able to be given with the strike.
                      Not to mention the ridiculous lunging. The fact that a 1/2 to the body stops you from uppercutting their head off, or a hook to their temple.
                      Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                      • Phillyboi207
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 3159

                        #71
                        Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                        Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                        Fighter selection isn't the point. You can do this with any fighter.
                        Go pick CM punk and do it in Div5 or higher during a championship match. Please record it

                        If you're successful i'll believe you

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                        • Bigg Cee
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4676

                          #72
                          Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                          Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                          Go pick CM punk and do it in Div5 or higher during a championship match. Please record it

                          If you're successful i'll believe you
                          how about a Brian Ortega against Conor? is that good enough because I did it to someone last night, I spammed the 1-2 to the body over and over before he spun or tried to move foward, then everytime he would get a hit stun and I would see him just freeze, then the flash KO head kick. lol


                          oh and btw its div. 6 rank #23 ps4, and it always happens to me, Owell, it is,what it is.

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                          • scyth223
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 283

                            #73
                            Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                            We get it. Some of you are very good at the game and never lose. But for the people who don't play all day...the spamming just isn't fun and ruins the game somewhat.


                            The other 95% of players who are just normal players and are getting spammed to death...it isn't fun.

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                            • drinklime
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 391

                              #74
                              Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                              To be honest it's pure insanity. Stepping into the online world should be pleasant; its current state fills one with remose. What is needed is a comprehensive overhaul. Bring back EA MMA. The system was more suited to fighting. By fixing combos, we are on the right path. Looking forward to the next patch, which should bring huge changes to striking

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                              • Find_the_Door
                                Nogueira connoisseur
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4051

                                #75
                                Re: 1/2 to the body spam

                                Originally posted by scyth223
                                We get it. Some of you are very good at the game and never lose. But for the people who don't play all day...the spamming just isn't fun and ruins the game somewhat.


                                The other 95% of players who are just normal players and are getting spammed to death...it isn't fun.
                                To be clear I am a top player (as are several posters in this thread) and even we are saying this must be fixed.
                                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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