Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

you are wrong. it does not.
Successful swoop give 2 things:
1. cancel opponent's reversal into deny (but you loose much more stamina as you was reversed but keep yr position)
2. slightly decrease GM's stamina cost, but if swopp is failed GM will costs much more stamina instead.

Weird. I must have misread it.

[CAPTAINKUKAMUNGA]

Re: Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

Getting denied and getting reversed are two different things. If you are getting denied, the meter stops. In a reversal, the meter keeps going. Perfect swoops are only used for reversals. Also, there are no pre-denials except standing take down and clinch denies.

really you can pre deny in the clinch i mean any transition from the clinch?i didnt know that and there was me waiting like an idiot does anyone have a list of all the positions or transitions you can pre deny from?

[SUGATA]

Re: Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

really you can pre deny in the clinch i mean any transition from the clinch?i didnt know that and there was me waiting like an idiot does anyone have a list of all the positions or transitions you can pre deny from?

The most terrible thing in UFC 2 that in Clinch you can not pre-deny, but YOU CAN PRE-REVERSAL opponent because of L2+RS input not L2+R2+RS as i asked for.
This is a terrible joke!!!

[Boiler569]

Re: Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

Dom fighters dont need anything else to make it easier for them to hold guys down.

People are getting so good at it now you can't even transition.

I was getting denied from moving the other night before my bar would even start filling lol.

Question, how am i supposed to be able to get a perfect swoop transition if they dom fighter can deny it before it even gets started?

I think a lot of times the people who are particularly good at keep you down, are 'pre-denying' a lot! And aren't really being punished for being 'lazy' - or over-aggressive - with their denials, so to speak.

I want *every* denial attempt to matter big time, just like every transition attempt and every strike matters. Right now I think it's a *bit* too easy to get away with sloppy denials (or worse, 'denial spam')

It's not necessarily limited to Dom or Sub fighters, applies both ways!

The most terrible thing in UFC 2 that in Clinch you can not pre-deny, but YOU CAN PRE-REVERSAL opponent because of L2+RS input not L2+R2+RS as i asked for.
This is a terrible joke!!!

If there's one guy who gets into the details on this forum it's you my man haha keep it up, you have a great grasp on the technicals

Maybe I'll try this experiment this weekend Although I'm going to be busy with all the UFC cards going on might not get the chance!

[Evil97]

Re: Bigger Penalty Needed For *MISSED* Pre-Denials

really you can pre deny in the clinch i mean any transition from the clinch?i didnt know that and there was me waiting like an idiot does anyone have a list of all the positions or transitions you can pre deny from?

Sorry for the confusion. I was talking about pre-denying the clinch entry. There are no pre-denies once in the clinch.