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  • manliest_Man
    MVP
    • May 2016
    • 1203

    #16
    Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

    Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
    How do you know he is better then me?

    Also, for someone who makes 10 posts a day complaining about Mike Tyson I find your post quite funny.

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    You clearly don't know how to land any takedowns and from what i concluded from your conversation he is in the top 100 #34 on ps4. So yeah, he is better than someone complaining he can't land a takedown.

    That said, you sound like you are a terrible player who doesn't understand how the game works, but i guess there is nothing else left for me or anyone else to do here to help you out.

    I guess you'll keep making posts complaining about how takedowns should be buffed, because you cannot land any , when all you had to do is either try to figure them out or at least let people in this forum help you out.
    Last edited by manliest_Man; 07-25-2016, 06:58 AM.

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    • Morgan Monkman
      North of 60
      • Apr 2016
      • 1385

      #17
      Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

      Originally posted by manliest_Man
      You clearly don't know how to land any takedowns and from what i concluded from your conversation he is in the top 100 #34 on ps4. So yeah, he is better than someone complaining he can't land a takedown.

      That said, you sound like you are a terrible player who doesn't understand how the game works, but i guess there is nothing else left for me or anyone else to do here to help you out.

      I guess you'll keep making posts complaining about how takedowns should be buffed, because you cannot land any , when all you had to do is either try to figure them out or at least let people in this forum help you out.



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      • Evil97
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1099

        #18
        Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

        Take downs don't need buffed anymore. A sway or two during a missed strike will send your opponent flying.

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        • Shogun474
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 220

          #19
          Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

          Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
          You assume much young grasshopper.

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          • Boiler569
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 2006

            #20
            Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

            I agree w/ this big time

            I've always said that standing takedowns need a buff --- perhaps the best way would be to NERF takedown defense when committed to a strike.

            True --- this is already a factor in this game; I can tell that when you throw a strike, a bit harder to stuff a TD. But not THAT much more difficult. Needs a nudge.

            (the patch that made straights/jabs not intercept takedowns did help a lot thankfully)

            In addition to this --- need to make stamina a bigger factor in takedown/takedown defense.

            Assuming even stats between two fighters --- it's actually PRETTY EASY for someone with 20% stamina to stuff someone with 80%+ stamina.

            Yes, I know all about slipping strikes to help you score a TD; or trying to time spinning techniques to score a TD; etc etc --- but that's no excuse for someone throwing a superman or overhand punch, you diving under it perfectly, and he STILL stuffs it --- or even worse, a 20% stamina fighter stuffing an 80% stamina fighter; hell, the 80% stamina fighter could be a high level WRESTLER and 20% guy could be 'average' takedown defense, and he'll probably still stuff the TD!
            Last edited by Boiler569; 07-25-2016, 08:28 AM.
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            • Morgan Monkman
              North of 60
              • Apr 2016
              • 1385

              #21
              Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

              I really enjoyed the UD version of take downs where you actually had to fight for it.
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              • Haz____
                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                • Apr 2016
                • 4023

                #22
                Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                This thread is spot on.

                Ducking under a hook and shooting a takedown, or shooting a takedown when the opponent has 1 leg off the ground throwing a kick, should basically guarantee the takedowns success.

                The worst is when you're deep in on the takedown, arms literally around the opponent, and then they throw a punch or kick that magically throws you off of them...
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                • Evil97
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1099

                  #23
                  Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                  I'm really against a takedown buff. This is coming from a ground fighter who is always looking for takedowns. If they make takedowns any easier, they might as well start the fight on the ground.

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                  • Bigg Cee
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4676

                    #24
                    Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                    Originally posted by Evil97
                    I'm really against a takedown buff. This is coming from a ground fighter who is always looking for takedowns. If they make takedowns any easier, they might as well start the fight on the ground.
                    PREACH ON BROTHA!!!

                    These ppl don't understand how it works. Takedowns or Standing Takedowns do not need a buff. its PERFECT!!!

                    Evil97 is spot on to everything he is saying, maybe if they don't listen to me they will listen to you. lol

                    The ground game is my bread and butter, sometimes I don't even throw a strike the whole fight and just try for takedowns. So I'm pretty sure what works and what does not. but whatever if they feel takedowns need a buff then do it, it will make fighting on the ground much much easier for me.

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                    • Haz____
                      Omaewa mou shindeiru
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4023

                      #25
                      Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                      Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                      PREACH ON BROTHA!!!

                      These ppl don't understand how it works. Takedowns or Standing Takedowns do not need a buff. its PERFECT!!!

                      Evil97 is spot on to everything he is saying, maybe if they don't listen to me they will listen to you. lol

                      The ground game is my bread and butter, sometimes I don't even throw a strike the whole fight and just try for takedowns. So I'm pretty sure what works and what does not. but whatever if they feel takedowns need a buff then do it, it will make fighting on the ground much much easier for me.
                      Takedown don't need a buff. They just need to be made more realistic.

                      Holding L2 + back to dodge a strike and build a magic grapple advantage, is an extremely video gamey mechanic.

                      Takedowns should be all about timing, not building up some type of multiplier.

                      If you shoot a takedown under a straight/ hook etc, or shoot a takedown when the opponent is in the middle of a kick - one foot off the ground, that should make that takedown nearly unstoppable.
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                      • Boiler569
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2006

                        #26
                        Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                        Well to help 'counterbalance' a buff to standing takedowns --- which is needed; especially for high stamina vs. low stamina --- I definitely wish that one could use the fence to help STUFF takedowns

                        Trust me I don't want takedowns to be totally overpowered haha I love wrestling but boxing is my bread and butter so standing is usually where I like it ----

                        but yea, especially the 80%+ stamina vs <20% stamina...that needs help bad lol

                        oh and LOL @

                        "The worst is when you're deep in on the takedown, arms literally around the opponent, and then they throw a punch or kick that magically throws you off of them..."

                        way too true
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                        • Morgan Monkman
                          North of 60
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1385

                          #27
                          Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                          How realistic is holding block an entire fight and only shooting for takedowns? Smh
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                          • Bigg Cee
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4676

                            #28
                            Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                            Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                            How realistic is holding block an entire fight and only shooting for takedowns? Smh
                            Once again you are talking out of your butt! lol

                            I don't even hold block when I go for takedowns. LMAO!!!

                            You honestly don't know what you are talking about and the more you post it is easy to see!!!

                            Please GPD do not listen to him on anything ground game related!!! PLEASE DONT!!!

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                            • Morgan Monkman
                              North of 60
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1385

                              #29
                              Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                              Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                              Once again you are talking out of your butt! lol

                              I don't even hold block when I go for takedowns. LMAO!!!

                              You honestly don't know what you are talking about and the more you post it is easy to see!!!

                              Please GPD do not listen to him on anything ground game related!!! PLEASE DONT!!!
                              Dude you just said sometimes you don't throw strikes and only go for takedowns lol.



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                              • Bigg Cee
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4676

                                #30
                                Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                                Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                                Dude you just said sometimes you don't throw strikes and only go for takedowns lol.



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                                But does that mean I hold block all game? HELL NO!!!

                                Honestly holding block and going for takedowns is not going to work that well. You have to either sway or squat down then shoot. Also shooting in for a takedown the minute they start to strike or during there strikes and it works great.

                                The more you post the more you are putting yourself in a hole. Now I know you have no idea how to do a good time takedown in UFC 2.

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