Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

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  • Dave_S
    Dave
    • Apr 2016
    • 7835

    #1

    Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

    I was looking at stats and noticed the only takedown and takedown defense stats were under clinch tab. I assumed this was only for clinch takedowns since Weidman and Silva have same takedown rating of 70, but didn't see takedowns listed anywhere else.

    So is the ratings for takedowns in clinch tab for every takedown, in the clinch or not?

    Side note, Olympic Greco-Roman wrestler has 69 rating for takedowns there?
  • Trillz
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1369

    #2
    Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

    yes i think it is, but it needs to get sepeared in the next game because certain fighters have better standing takedowns to clinch takedowns and vice versa.

    E.g. Edgar is a much better standing takedown person then clinch takedowns. Khabib is the other way round.
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    • Supreme_Bananas
      Pro
      • Apr 2016
      • 944

      #3
      Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

      Aren't clinch takedowns governed by the Clinch Throws stat? I thought single/double legs from the clinch were governed by the normal takedowns stat and all other trips and throws by clinch throws

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      • Boiler569
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 2006

        #4
        Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

        Originally posted by Supreme_Bananas
        Aren't clinch takedowns governed by the Clinch Throws stat? I thought single/double legs from the clinch were governed by the normal takedowns stat and all other trips and throws by clinch throws
        I believe this is the case as well, though I'm not 100% sure

        Hip Toss/Judo Throw/Suplex/Trips = Clinch Throw

        Single/Double = Takedown
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        • GameplayDevUFC
          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
          • Jun 2014
          • 2830

          #5
          Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

          Originally posted by Boiler569
          I believe this is the case as well, though I'm not 100% sure

          Hip Toss/Judo Throw/Suplex/Trips = Clinch Throw

          Single/Double = Takedown
          In the clinch it's the Clinch Throws rating vs. Clinch Throws rating.

          In Single Leg and Double Leg, even if they came from the clinch, it's Takedowns rating vs. Takedown Defense rating.

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          • Phillyboi207
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 3159

            #6
            Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

            Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
            In the clinch it's the Clinch Throws rating vs. Clinch Throws rating.

            In Single Leg and Double Leg, even if they came from the clinch, it's Takedowns rating vs. Takedown Defense rating.
            So this isnt weighted based on divisions?

            That explains why TDD is OP in higher divisions

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            • GameplayDevUFC
              Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
              • Jun 2014
              • 2830

              #7
              Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

              Originally posted by Phillyboi207
              So this isnt weighted based on divisions?

              That explains why TDD is OP in higher divisions
              I honestly have no idea.

              I get a rating number for each, and they are used straight up as is.

              What happens before it gets to me in terms of caps or anything else that determines the number is a bit of a mystery to me.

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              • Phillyboi207
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 3159

                #8
                Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

                Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                I honestly have no idea.

                I get a rating number for each, and they are used straight up as is.

                What happens before it gets to me in terms of caps or anything else that determines the number is a bit of a mystery to me.
                I appreciate your honesty

                Would it be too much trouble for you to find the answer?

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #9
                  Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

                  Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                  I appreciate your honesty

                  Would it be too much trouble for you to find the answer?
                  Biggest challenge is me remembering to do it next week as I won't have time today.

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                  • Phillyboi207
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 3159

                    #10
                    Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

                    Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                    Biggest challenge is me remembering to do it next week as I won't have time today.
                    Fair enough

                    I'll either bump this or make a new topic next week asking the question

                    Thanks

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                    • WhoDatNinja
                      Rookie
                      • May 2016
                      • 100

                      #11
                      Re: Are the takedowns in clinch stats for every takedown?

                      Nice i was just wondering about this myself.

                      Since it says Takedown Defense controls getting up from the ground, does blocking get up attempts still rely on Top Game or is it Takedown?

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