This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

That fishingtime video was insane luck too. And straight into MT for the full on cheese finish.....

FTF is messed up. Damn right I will clinch to finish there. You have 2 options really. Deny or block. He blocked. I usually deny because of this and survive. A lot of times they do strike though and I'm out. There is nothing wrong with that. He didn't even block his head. That was what left the knee open to an unblocked knee. The damage was high enough that one more strike in the clinch rendered him out. Ever wonder why you can't block sometimes in the clinch? Your head is too red. It is like a standing TKO. Had I put the whole video up, you wouldn't be bitching.

You only see a portion. You don't see him trying to finish me in the clinch after putting me into a body health event. I blocked where I was hurt immediately though and transitioned. Did this over and over until I got the takedown. I should have been out, but I knew what to do. People always look over my parry in the clinch, but they can see for themselves how the damage transfers if you do this. His one knee should have took me out. However, I did the parry and my arm took all the damage.

Cheese is relative. If I put the whole video up, you would likely be saying, "Nice, you finished that juggler."

[Haz____]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

All mechanics like probability based flash rocks, and FTF do, is reward low skill players for spamming modified strikes, fishing for flashes.

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

All mechanics like probability based flash rocks, and FTF do, is reward low skill players for spamming modified strikes, fishing for flashes.

That rock was because of the phase of which he was in. In Undisputed, that would have been a flash KO. This game isn't like last one where a random rock could death rock you. I would be bitching if it were. Mistakes are made. That is it. He got caught. That happens in real life too. They are very rare in this game. Most rocks here are believable. Which wasn't the case last game.

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Against someone who doesn't know the clinch, this would have been a TKO. Watch my arms though. I use a parry command to block here. It transfers the damage to the arm. My body was already so red, one more strike would have finished me.

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Wait! He was trying to finish me in the clinch! That is so cheesy!

[Shogun474]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Looks like a legit KO to me

[chaos]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Seems like you tried to parry and mistimed it, causing you to get hit wide open.

[manliest_Man]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Seems like you tried to parry and mistimed it, causing you to get hit wide open.

Sadly i didn't parry,just let go of block, slow down the video and notice my stamina/hand movement.

The game also had no noticable lag/delay.

It's an issue with Finish the Fight Animation, that can start really quick and you are unable to block your head after gettin rocked due to the hit reaction. That's what i am complainin about mostly, not the random rock health event. What bothered me most is how fast that mechanic began and how un responsive my block was after i got blocked due to being full body stuned.

[diprosopus]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Looks fine to me. Wtf?

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

It's an issue with Finish the Fight Animation, that can start really quick and you are unable to block your head after gettin rocked due to the hit reaction. That's what i am complainin about mostly, not the random rock health event. What bothered me most is how fast that mechanic began and how un responsive my block was after i got blocked due to being full body stuned.

That one is supposed to be fast though. That is why you have to be ready to block at all times, and parry after a couples strikes to slow them down further stamina wise.

[trainbyday1]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Against someone who doesn't know the clinch, this would have been a TKO. Watch my arms though. I use a parry command to block here. It transfers the damage to the arm. My body was already so red, one more strike would have finished me.

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Wait! He was trying to finish me in the clinch! That is so cheesy!

Fish what do you mean you used a parry command to block? Can you explain?

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Fish what do you mean you used a parry command to block? Can you explain?

Like R2 and X. There is actually a command for this in stacked guard that shows up. We were some of the few people who could actually block the knees to the head in the beta. You had to do this. Everyone else was getting KO'ed.

[Boiler569]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

I'm not saying that's not a painful loss

but you can't say it's *not* realistic

guys who were a bit gassed and hurt have definitely caught and finished the superior fighter in MMA --- that's one of the best parts about this sport IMO, so unpredictable

I'm not defending the finish the fight mechanics in this game though

I had a somewhat similar loss last night so I feel your pain...but...I still think this type of loss has its place in the game, occasionally

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

I had a somewhat similar loss last night so I feel your pain...but...I still think this type of loss has its place in the game, occasionally

Yeah, this rock is more of one that you really have to be prepared for. It would be different if this happened every time. It doesn't though, and that possibility for it to be that one is kind of what makes it good. I can't say I've never gotten mad because of this one, but it was my fault for getting rocked in the first place.

[TRIFECTA43]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Perhaps a good fix for ufc 3 for this would be to have more than 1 rocked state. In this version you do only have one "rock state"
Then if you get caught you're almost definately finished.

If they had 2-3 different rocked states with differed levels of severity, so say in state 1, it'll take a modified head strike to take you to stage 2, where a lesser strike can take to stage 3 or knock you down with another modified Stoke etc.

This would be more like real mma when fighters get caught all the time but eat more shots before recovering.

[fishingtime]

Re: This is worse than losing to a random insta KO in EA UFC 1.

Perhaps a good fix for ufc 3 for this would be to have more than 1 rocked state. In this version you do only have one "rock state"
Then if you get caught you're almost definately finished.

If they had 2-3 different rocked states with differed levels of severity, so say in state 1, it'll take a modified head strike to take you to stage 2, where a lesser strike can take to stage 3 or knock you down with another modified Stoke etc.

This would be more like real mma when fighters get caught all the time but eat more shots before recovering.

They are already kind of like that. Head damage does a lot. Some rocks your head will stay red longer. The hooks rock FTF is also more of a rock that I believe is caused by a hook. I don't think I have gotten that any other way. I would have to test it, but most times I've seen it has been from a hook.