EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

[Haz____]

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Just gonna throw this out there..

UD3 had draws.

And tons and tons of other things EA UFC doesn't have. And it came out 5 years ago... Why was that team able to achieve having all these features in their game, but EA UFC can't? 5 years later, on a waaaay more powerful machine?

[Haz____]

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This isnt one of them though. This is just a personal preference for you and isnt a prefrence of a good amnount of people who play the game. Some people just like fighting with fighters they want to fight with. If that is Jones or DJ or Lawler...they dont care. If that means they are likely to fight someone in a mirror match....they dont care. In ranked, most people just want to be in the best position to win and thats it.

I dont even play ranked often but I'm not a fan of restricting who people can use just because both players want the same fighter.

I disagree. Mirror matches in simulation sports games are incredibly dumb. I absolutely HATE it. I agree that id rather quit, than even play that match out. I wonder what % of ranked matches are Mcgregor vs Mcgregor? So dumb.

Go play Tekken or Street Fighter if you want goofy nonsense like that in your fighting game.

[Bigg Cee]

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I disagree. Mirror matches in simulation sports games are incredibly dumb. I absolutely HATE it. I agree that id rather quit, than even play that match out. I wonder what % of ranked matches are Mcgregor vs Mcgregor? So dumb.

Go play Tekken or Street Fighter if you want goofy nonsense like that in your fighting game.

Ive said this before and I'll say it again. Mirror matches are the devil, more so a 5 round title fight when your both champions and mixed in with a lil bit of narcotics and I get confused which fighter I am (red or blue) and I always get confused looking at the stamina bar. Ughhh... NIGHTMARE!

If your opponent picks a fighter then it should lock up so you can't select the same one. I rather see that.

[aholbert32]

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I disagree. Mirror matches in simulation sports games are incredibly dumb. I absolutely HATE it. I agree that id rather quit, than even play that match out. I wonder what % of ranked matches are Mcgregor vs Mcgregor? So dumb.

Go play Tekken or Street Fighter if you want goofy nonsense like that in your fighting game.

There is not a single simulation sports game that restricts who you can pick. Not one that I can think of. Not Madden. NBA 2k. Fifa. The Show.

I dont play online regularly so this doesnt effect me but I'm not fan of not being able to pick who I want when I want to. If you want to ensure that you dont face McGregor all the time, fight in a league or with people you know.

[aholbert32]

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Just gonna throw this out there..

UD3 had draws.

And tons and tons of other things EA UFC doesn't have. And it came out 5 years ago... Why was that team able to achieve having all these features in their game, but EA UFC can't? 5 years later, on a waaaay more powerful machine?

Draws have nothing to do with a way more powerful machine. It has to do with priorities.

UD3 was the third version of a series that was developed for 5 years. Assuming UFC 3 releases this year it will be the third version of a series that was developed for 4 years.

It has a ton of things that I wish was in the UFC 2 (and potentially UFC 3). It also has modes and features that werent in UFC 3. It had Pride Mode which I loved.

It doesnt have anything close to Ultimate Team. It doesnt have online events. It will likely not have 1 or 2 modes that you havent even heard about yet. I already know of some small features that are new to any MMA game. So while its understandable to compare the next game to UD3, you should understand it goes both ways.

I want draws in the game. I do. I'm holding out hope that the devs will get around to adding them. But I understand why they havent been added and I'm not going to lose sleep over a feature that has happened in less than 1% of all UFC fights.

[TheRizzzle]

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Draws have nothing to do with a way more powerful machine. It has to do with priorities.

UD3 was the third version of a series that was developed for 5 years. Assuming UFC 3 releases this year it will be the third version of a series that was developed for 4 years.

It has a ton of things that I wish was in the UFC 2 (and potentially UFC 3). It also has modes and features that werent in UFC 3. It had Pride Mode which I loved.

It doesnt have anything close to Ultimate Team. It doesnt have online events. It will likely not have 1 or 2 modes that you havent even heard about yet. I already know of some small features that are new to any MMA game. So while its understandable to compare the next game to UD3, you should understand it goes both ways.

I want draws in the game. I do. I'm holding out hope that the devs will get around to adding them. But I understand why they havent been added and I'm not going to lose sleep over a feature that has happened in less than 1% of all UFC fights.

While I understand this and will default to those who are more in the know, I'm still a little confused.

How, if there is judging logic, is it possible that draws aren't a thing? It's math. If the scores equal to a draw, it's a draw.

Unless what I'm hearing is there isn't a 10-8 scenario (which I don't believe is true because I've heard some 30-26's before).

So it feels like something had to be added in to change the eventual solution to the math problem. It just feels like it would be easier to have draws than not. Let the judging logic do its job and if it's a draw, let it be a draw.

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[aholbert32]

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While I understand this and will default to those who are more in the know, I'm still a little confused.

How, if there is judging logic, is it possible that draws aren't a thing? It's math. If the scores equal to a draw, it's a draw.

Unless what I'm hearing is there isn't a 10-8 scenario (which I don't believe is true because I've heard some 30-26's before).

So it feels like something had to be added in to change the eventual solution to the math problem. It just feels like it would be easier to have draws than not. Let the judging logic do its job and if it's a draw, let it be a draw.

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It isnt and thats why there arent draws in the game. To be completely accurate, there are draws in the game. There are 10-8 rounds in UFC 2 too. What happens is that when their is a draw, the game randomizes who one.

So EA had a choice....add a randomizer or add all of the things that I mentioned before to accurately represent a draw. Given how EA manages its time, I doubt that adding a randomizer was the harder choice.

I would for EA to just devote some time to knock this out so that its no longer a complaint but EA has other things that are much higher on its to do list.

[TheRizzzle]

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It isnt and thats why there arent draws in the game. To be completely accurate, there are draws in the game. There are 10-8 rounds in UFC 2 too. What happens is that when their is a draw, the game randomizes who one.

So EA had a choice....add a randomizer or add all of the things that I mentioned before to accurately represent a draw. Given how EA manages its time, I doubt that adding a randomizer was the harder choice.

I would for EA to just devote some time to knock this out so that its no longer a complaint but EA has other things that are much higher on its to do list.

Ok I think I understand.

What you're saying is the judging logic is there, but the animations, sound effects and fighters throwing their hands up in the air in disappointment and confusions isn't there?

I guess that makes sense, but man, I'd hope they could get that in for this game.

I completely get the thinking that draws, while a deviation from the norm, are frequent enough in MMA that not allowing them because we don't want to allocate resources for the cut scenes and audio seems...small time.

I mean, what if Madden had you play a game, go to overtime and it ends up a tie. But because they didn't want to record the audio of the guys talking about ties they just decided that they would randomly add a point to one team and declare it a winner.

I know resources are a real thing, but I think the basic mechanics and outcomes of scoring should be included. I mean, we had knockout mode for heaven's sake but draws were what had to get cut out?

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[aholbert32]

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Ok I think I understand.

What you're saying is the judging logic is there, but the animations, sound effects and fighters throwing their hands up in the air in disappointment and confusions isn't there?

I guess that makes sense, but man, I'd hope they could get that in for this game.

I completely get the thinking that draws, while a deviation from the norm, are frequent enough in MMA that not allowing them because we don't want to allocate resources for the cut scenes and audio seems...small time.

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Correct. It just doesnt happen frequent enough (less than 1%) for it to become a priority.

[fballturkey]

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Correct. It just doesnt happen frequent enough (less than 1%) for it to become a priority.

In 2016 1.6% of fights ended with a non-choke submission but holy crap if armbars weren't in the game.

Not counting NCs draws were just under 1% (one more would've pushed them over) but expect that number to be higher this year. Draws are a must have in 3, especially with how easy they would be to implement. Online can have them or not, I don't care, but offline has to have them.

[Dave_S]

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How many draws have we seen due to judge incompetence or just judging mistakes. We also see 48-47, 47-48, 47-47. The judges aren't always scoring on the same criteria. I've seen D'amato and other judges vary scoring criteria the same event.

You want draws offline, I'm okay with that. I would rather see more accurate judging currently with new scoring system in effect. If the game objectively did decisions there should never be split decisions, but that could get boring.

[fishingtime]

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UD3 was the third version of a series that was developed for 5 years. Assuming UFC 3 releases this year it will be the third version of a series that was developed for 4 years.

Pretty sure draws were in since '09 though. They are so rare though, it is a non-issue for me.

[TreJayMMA]

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Correct. It just doesnt happen frequent enough (less than 1%) for it to become a priority.

Yeah but that's real life. If were being honest a few people online play true to life and i mean that in a good way and in a bad way. There are ALOT and i mean ALOT more fights that should have ended in a draw in the game then there would be in real life.

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[THE_GAMER_205]

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You can get a draw on UFC 2. It happens when Bruce says "winner by split/majority dec is _____.. They key is that Bruce doesn't say a score (30-27 x3 ) if there is no score announced then it's a draw! Although they didn't put draws in the game so the game picks a RANDOM winner. I've ran about 50 test to try and find out how it picks a winner but it really is luck of the draw.


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[aholbert32]

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In 2016 1.6% of fights ended with a non-choke submission but holy crap if armbars weren't in the game.

Not counting NCs draws were just under 1% (one more would've pushed them over) but expect that number to be higher this year. Draws are a must have in 3, especially with how easy they would be to implement. Online can have them or not, I don't care, but offline has to have them.

Come on man. Thats not an appropriate comparison. Thats splitting hairs. I'm not talking about kinds of draws. I'm talking about draws period. Also, EVERYBODY would complain if non-choke submissions werent in the game. As Skynet stated and I've seen from certain players, EVERYBODY doesnt want or care that draws are in the game.

Even if you add No Contests, Its still 1% of the time. I want them in. You want them in. But lets not act as they are "must haves" and on the level of actual submission moves.