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  • GameplayDevUFC
    Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
    • Jun 2014
    • 2830

    #31
    Re: Submissions need tweaking.

    Originally posted by Bigg Cee
    Its looking like this is how subs are going to be for online fights.

    YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

    You are all going to be tapped out and pretty much everyone will quit when ranked matches come around. LOVE IT!!!!!
    Don't get too excited, the jury is still out.

    Want to see how things go once people know what to do. Which might be a challenge on its own. We'll see.

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    • GameplayDevUFC
      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
      • Jun 2014
      • 2830

      #32
      Re: Submissions need tweaking.

      Originally posted by Chmielu9123
      Yes we all can escape on 4 gates but whenever submission have 2 or 3 gates its gg.

      Also whats up with really hard submission to pull off are the easiest?

      The most common submission is the least common in this game

      Im talking about "choke"

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      There are 2-3 gate fixes post beta already that bring them in line with 4-5 gates.

      There also a bug in the beta that can make subs 1 gate when they shouldn't be.

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      • Thetruth9012
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 1287

        #33
        Re: Submissions need tweaking.

        Maybe chokes on takedowns should have 2 gates or 3 max.

        Werdum va velaqsuez style

        That would bring another counter for takedowns.


        Thanks for the answers.

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        2k18 fixes

        Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

        Late contest on laups matter too much.

        Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

        Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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        • Dave_S
          Dave
          • Apr 2016
          • 7835

          #34
          Re: Submissions need tweaking.

          Originally posted by Chmielu9123
          Maybe chokes on takedowns should have 2 gates or 3 max.

          Werdum va velaqsuez style

          That would bring another counter for takedowns.

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          How many are there now?

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          • Find_the_Door
            Nogueira connoisseur
            • Jan 2012
            • 4051

            #35
            Re: Submissions need tweaking.

            Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
            Don't get too excited, the jury is still out.

            Want to see how things go once people know what to do. Which might be a challenge on its own. We'll see.
            Honestly I think it's much to easy to submit people - this is coming from someone with hundreds of subs under the previous system.

            Escape gates need to fill slightly faster.
            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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            • Thetruth9012
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1287

              #36
              Re: Submissions need tweaking.

              Dont know cant check now but just had this idea if imanari roll have 2 then choke should have 1 to be honest xD but if they changing it then 2-3 its a good thing.

              Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
              2k18 fixes

              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

              Late contest on laups matter too much.

              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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              • PapaLemur
                Banned
                • Nov 2017
                • 87

                #37
                Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                I just don't understand how we finally get a submission system that isn't total trash and you change none of the other features of grappling, but submissions get changed. Who was complaining? Don't fix what isn't broken.

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #38
                  Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                  Here's an example of the optimal escape strategy on a 5 gate submission.

                  One of our testers escaping against Kenetic online.

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                  • bballshawn24
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 480

                    #39
                    Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                    Love the new sub system ha.

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                    • Bigg Cee
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4676

                      #40
                      Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                      Originally posted by bballshawn24
                      Love the new sub system ha.
                      Me 2. People are really going to hate this. Pick a submission specialist and it’s good night and thanks for playing.

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                      • GameplayDevUFC
                        Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2830

                        #41
                        Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                        Another example:

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                        • chapmandachamp
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 379

                          #42
                          Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                          I wish it was easier to deny the sub in the first place. 5 frames with such subtle tells then I’m stuck for a min 3 gate battle


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                          • Dave_S
                            Dave
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 7835

                            #43
                            Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                            New gate strategies aside I'm not the most keen on new minigame graphics. I could be imagining this, but ufc 2 graphics seemed more transparent. I felt i could actually see and enjoy what the fighters were doing more.

                            The graphics that show which gate you are on are unnecessarily big. I'm also not so hot on how the "R" and "L" look on the directional things.

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                            • burningxspirit
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 224

                              #44
                              Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                              I gotta say, I am one of the best at submissions on xbl...ofense and defense... And I can for sure say yeah the escape gates need to be sped up a LOT. And I expect they will be.

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                              • The Senator
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 221

                                #45
                                Re: Submissions need tweaking.

                                Subs are way too good at this point. I've enjoyed every other aspect of the gameplay, but the subs are bad. I've tapped people with random guillotines, and despite reading GameplayDev's advice, find myself tapping more often than not whenever someone gets a sub off.

                                Then again, I was never really a fan of the four gate system, and would prefer something more fluid and less obviously mini gamefish.

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