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  • Haz____
    Omaewa mou shindeiru
    • Apr 2016
    • 4023

    #16
    Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

    Originally posted by Seymorslash
    Diaz is not indicative of the rest of the available roster, there's no way anybody other than him is keeping that pace and has near max stamina the next round. Maybe Furg but that's it.
    Yes there is. I've seen it happen with Ferg, Alverez, Dariush, Conor, Pettis, Khabib, and even had a Daikiesi spam 170+ 1-2s for an entire round and start rnd 2 with barely a sliver of stamina gone.


    Anyone trying to defend 180 strike rounds should maybe go play Tekken because thats not how real MMA works.
    PSN: Lord__Hazanko

    Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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    • smokeface
      Rookie
      • Aug 2017
      • 415

      #17
      Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

      You are 100% right, stamina is messed up. We regain way too much between rounds. If I throw a ton of strikes in a round, I lose a lot of stamina but I regain all of it back during the break. The amount regained needs to be reduced.

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      Last edited by smokeface; 12-02-2017, 12:03 AM.

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      • Seymorslash
        Rookie
        • Nov 2017
        • 197

        #18
        Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

        Originally posted by Haz____
        even had a Daikiesi spam 170+ 1-2s for an entire round and start rnd 2 with barely a sliver of stamina gone.


        Diakiese has a striking stamina stat of 83 and an endurance stat of 85, I've played him more than anyone else except maybe conor. He does not have the gas tank to throw that many strikes in a round and only lose a sliver in the next. Unless he was landing every one of those 1-2s clean, there's no way that's possible.

        Also, if all he's throwing are 1-2s then why are you punishing him for it? It's incredibly easy to counter.

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        • smokeface
          Rookie
          • Aug 2017
          • 415

          #19
          Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

          Originally posted by Seymorslash


          Diakiese has a striking stamina stat of 83 and an endurance stat of 85, I've played him more than anyone else except maybe conor. He does not have the gas tank to throw that many strikes in a round and only lose a sliver in the next. Unless he was landing every one of those 1-2s clean, there's no way that's possible.

          Also, if all he's throwing are 1-2s then why are you punishing him for it? It's incredibly easy to counter.
          I believe his numbers are exaggerated, I haven't seen a round with more than 110 strikes. I do believe however we get too much stamina regain between rounds.

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          • Haz____
            Omaewa mou shindeiru
            • Apr 2016
            • 4023

            #20
            Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

            I have a few pictures saved actually of crazy strike numbers per round. I'll try to upload them.
            PSN: Lord__Hazanko

            Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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            • TheUFCVeteran
              Pro
              • May 2016
              • 878

              #21
              Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

              Originally posted by Seymorslash


              Diakiese has a striking stamina stat of 83 and an endurance stat of 85, I've played him more than anyone else except maybe conor. He does not have the gas tank to throw that many strikes in a round and only lose a sliver in the next. Unless he was landing every one of those 1-2s clean, there's no way that's possible.

              Also, if all he's throwing are 1-2s then why are you punishing him for it? It's incredibly easy to counter.
              Well his original point is not that it’s counterable, but that it shouldn’t be possible. Realistically it shouldn’t either. Not even Nate can throw 180 1-2s in a round unless his opponent sits there and does nothing.

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              • Seymorslash
                Rookie
                • Nov 2017
                • 197

                #22
                Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                Originally posted by TheUFCVeteran
                Well his original point is not that it’s counterable, but that it shouldn’t be possible. Realistically it shouldn’t either. Not even Nate can throw 180 1-2s in a round unless his opponent sits there and does nothing.
                I argued that it's not possible for the majority of the cast to do so, I agree, it shouldn't be possible at all. But, there's clearly a good deal of exaggeration going on in the guys posts on the subject.



                To your second point: "Unless he was landing every one of those 1-2s clean, there's no way that's possible."

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                • Haz____
                  Omaewa mou shindeiru
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4023

                  #23
                  Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                  I'm not exaggerating at all.
                  PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                  Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                  • Seymorslash
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 197

                    #24
                    Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                    Where are those pics bruh?

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                    • TheGentlemanGhost
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1321

                      #25
                      Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                      Try going 5 rounds with Diakiese.

                      Lemme know if you still think the drain is too little.
                      I use him all the time now, his stamina drains pretty fast most times, but it usually doesn't matter because they don't slow down that much when their stamina is low and they still have the same striking power.

                      I always get nervous at first when I get in the later rounds with him, but I realize my combos still come out just about as fast as they do in the 1st rd and still have the same pop.

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                      • Haz____
                        Omaewa mou shindeiru
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4023

                        #26
                        Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                        I saved these 3 in just the past half hour or so of play.





                        PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                        Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                        • AeroZeppelin27
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 2287

                          #27
                          Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                          I play on full clock. My decisions are often in the 600 total strike mark for the CPU in 25 minute fights, and half of these end with two near full stamina fighters.

                          The issue, I think, is the stamina floors for jabs and straights, they don't deplete overall stamina. And they're by far the most thrown strikes, once you used to the controls and begin mixing in hooks and uppercuts you'll find your stamina dropping tenfold what it did when you were relying mainly on 1-2's. This needs some kind of fix I think, it encourages 1-2 spam and puts people who mix up their shots at a disadvantage in the long term.

                          Not to mention the AI's overall output in full length fights is 50% higher than an average standup fight 95% of the time.

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                          • Mossfan8480
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1169

                            #28
                            Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                            I don't understand why people are arguing with Haz, the stamina issue in this game is clear as day. From the very first gameplay video uploaded, it was apparent that stamina was not being handled realistically, and even with people "learning how to play the game," it still hasn't changed the fact that stamina in EA UFC 3 is more arcade than simulation.

                            If EA is trying to make a fighting game with UFC rosters, cool, go for it. If EA is actually trying to emulate the sport of MMA and create a realistic simulation, it is currently failing.

                            Look no further than tonight's fight between Ryan Janes and Andrew Sanchez. Sanchez had Janes dead in the water in the first round, I was actually screaming at my TV for the ref to stop the fight. However, the ref let the fight continue and Janes survived the first, and ultimately went on to finish the fight in the third round because Sanchez had gassed himself out and was a complete shell of himself come round 3.

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                            • tissues250
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1526

                              #29
                              Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                              they should add more stamina tax to combo and combo.

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                              • Bigg Cee
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4676

                                #30
                                Re: Strikes Per Minute: Stamina in UFC 3.

                                Every freaking game now is a Diaz user throwing non stop in the first 2 rounds of every fight i have against them online. I have officially stop playing them and no the answer is not picking Conor to strike with them. I actually use everyone in these UFC games.

                                Wait till the full game drops and your using a crappy low rated fighter going against a Spammy Diaz user with skill.


                                Ughhhh.... 👎🏻

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