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  • manliest_Man
    MVP
    • May 2016
    • 1203

    #16
    Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

    I don't know what you all say, but for me, the ideal solution would be (if possible) for the devs to have those buttons disabled as it would be giving people an unfair advantage.

    I'd even go further, in saying that PS4 PRO users shouldn't be allowed to play at 60fps vs 30fps online. (even if there is no difference in the responsiveness) . Let em play 60vs60 on ps4 pro vs ps4 pro users.

    I'm even planning on buying a ps4 pro myself, but i still wouldn't like the idea of people fighting on different playingfields and have other factors other than skill, be important.

    That's one of the reasons, i still don't like the timing based grappling transitions, as people with gaming monitors of 1ms response times + plugged in proffesional controllers, get to dominate in the ground game with the small time windows, not beause of skill, but because of faster inputs.

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    • TehFlame
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 149

      #17
      Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

      Originally posted by manliest_Man
      I don't know what you all say, but for me, the ideal solution would be (if possible) for the devs to have those buttons disabled as it would be giving people an unfair advantage.

      I'd even go further, in saying that PS4 PRO users shouldn't be allowed to play at 60fps vs 30fps online. (even if there is no difference in the responsiveness) . Let em play 60vs60 on ps4 pro vs ps4 pro users.

      I'm even planning on buying a ps4 pro myself, but i still wouldn't like the idea of people fighting on different playingfields and have other factors other than skill, be important.

      That's one of the reasons, i still don't like the timing based grappling transitions, as people with gaming monitors of 1ms response times + plugged in proffesional controllers, get to dominate in the ground game with the small time windows, not beause of skill, but because of faster inputs.
      I understand what you're saying but the last part is going too far haha. Having gaming monitor benefit all aspect of the game, not just transitions. There's no way to balance timing issues because someone chooses to use a slow TV. Reaction speed will always be a core part of online gaming

      The only big issue will be PS4 pro, 30 fps vs 60 fps is huuuge. But meh, I don't care. Good for the pro owners

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      • Serengeti1
        MVP
        • Mar 2016
        • 1720

        #18
        Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

        Yaari... Do you have slim fingers? Cause I do... And I think it's why I'm having trouble. Trying to throw an uppercut to the body is a nightmare. I keep throwing roundhouse kicks.

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        • Yaari
          MVP
          • Feb 2014
          • 1496

          #19
          Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

          Originally posted by Serengeti95
          Yaari... Do you have slim fingers? Cause I do... And I think it's why I'm having trouble. Trying to throw an uppercut to the body is a nightmare. I keep throwing roundhouse kicks.
          I do yeah, very much so. I hope practice will improve it for me over time, but I kind of doubt it.

          Time to bulk up I guess.

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          • Serengeti1
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1720

            #20
            Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

            Originally posted by Yaari
            I do yeah, very much so. I hope practice will improve it for me over time, but I kind of doubt it.

            Time to bulk up I guess.
            Only way to bulk up your hands is getting fat my man haha. My hands are pretty big but my fingers are real feminine lol

            My thumb is too thin and isn't covering the x and square buttons well enough. Interestingly... It's much easier when I go to the head with the uppercut for me. When I go to the body.... failure is significantly increased lol

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            • Serengeti1
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1720

              #21
              Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

              Think I'm gonna have to strive for obesity to be the best competitive UFC 3 player I can be. The very best have to be very dedicated.

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              • killakrok
                Pro
                • Dec 2006
                • 605

                #22
                Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                This is interesting as I have huge hands and long fingers so doing anything with multiple triggers on a small PS4 controller is nearly impossible for me. Even simple hooks are pretty hard because my hands are so much bigger than the controller and fingers are really long.

                I actually find uppercuts super easy with giant thumbs and go with jab + uppercut and straight + body uppercuts as my main combos on the inside since hooks are much harder. I've said doing something like jab + right hook + modified high kick is like solving a rubik's cube for me.

                I actually thought about getting a different controller with thumbsticks that aren't as far back and don't need to be pressed down as far, but UFC 3 would really be the only game I'd be playing on PS4 so it wouldn't be worth it.

                How I feel practicing combos on a PS4 controller.

                Last edited by killakrok; 12-06-2017, 01:52 AM.

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                • GrimLeiper
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 353

                  #23
                  Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                  Been a gamer for almost twenty years and had always considered these pads cheating.

                  But where do you draw the line? I recall the first time I played COD with a decent pair of headphones. The advantage was crazy, it allowed you to pinpoint where someone was... but then most people play with headphones on these days.

                  I suppose it only becomes an issue when you can do something someone else can't. Modded controllers on other games meant to you could change the gameplay. A semi automatic rifle would then become an automatic rifle.

                  Not sure how these controllers would effect this game this game though, other than a combo being easier.

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                  • AeroZeppelin27
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 2287

                    #24
                    Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                    Originally posted by manliest_Man
                    I don't know what you all say, but for me, the ideal solution would be (if possible) for the devs to have those buttons disabled as it would be giving people an unfair advantage.

                    I'd even go further, in saying that PS4 PRO users shouldn't be allowed to play at 60fps vs 30fps online. (even if there is no difference in the responsiveness) . Let em play 60vs60 on ps4 pro vs ps4 pro users.

                    I'm even planning on buying a ps4 pro myself, but i still wouldn't like the idea of people fighting on different playingfields and have other factors other than skill, be important.

                    That's one of the reasons, i still don't like the timing based grappling transitions, as people with gaming monitors of 1ms response times + plugged in proffesional controllers, get to dominate in the ground game with the small time windows, not beause of skill, but because of faster inputs.

                    I have a pro and I actually agree with this. But I don't see it happening, we get a straight up 15 FPS buff on BF1 at near all times over base, and it was noticable as hell when I first got the pro.

                    Actually, I may be wrong, as BF1 is 60fps on both machines, pro is just more consistent, whereas on my base ps4, UFC 3 was 30, on pro, pretty smooth 60, in online as well, I couldn't tell if it gave me an advantage. Latency still could ruin fights and transition denials.

                    I played a few people who could just hold me down (I consider my ground game pretty dang good too) and deny everything I tried but I couldnt get one on them unless I had full GA from a block, he couldn't do anything significant so it was mainly a stalemate, but that denial speed, dunno what that was. Maybe I suck lol.

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                    • SUGATA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1375

                      #25
                      Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                      I have this controller.
                      It allows to bind on 4 macros buttons NOT ONLY but 10-buttons Combo, it allows to bind a SERIES of buttons inputs with different frames intervals.
                      Not only buttons but analog sticks as well.
                      So it allows to make SF ultras by one button click.
                      Is this a honorable and sportsmanlike ? No
                      Is this official SONY licensed product so allowed and not restricted? Yes
                      Will this make you a champion? No, but it may give u some advantage VS equal opponent
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                      • MalformedDC2009
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 279

                        #26
                        Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                        Originally posted by SUGATA
                        I have this controller.
                        It allows to bind on 4 macros buttons NOT ONLY but 10-buttons Combo, it allows to bind a SERIES of buttons inputs with different frames intervals.
                        Not only buttons but analog sticks as well.
                        So it allows to make SF ultras by one button click.
                        Is this a honorable and sportsmanlike ? No
                        Is this official SONY licensed product so allowed and not restricted? Yes
                        Will this make you a champion? No, but it may give u some advantage VS equal opponent
                        Dang, I need to save for one of these! Did you use this during the beta for uppercuts, etc. , or did you just use the regular controller?

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                        • Yaari
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 1496

                          #27
                          Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                          Again I want to repeat that only the rev1 controller released last December will be able to do macro. The one released in July of this year, had all of that removed.

                          SUGATA, Do you use this controller, because the reviews I've read about it don't really sound all too great.

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                          • SUGATA
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1375

                            #28
                            Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                            Originally posted by Yaari
                            Again I want to repeat that only the rev1 controller released last December will be able to do macro. The one released in July of this year, had all of that removed.

                            SUGATA, Do you use this controller, because the reviews I've read about it don't really sound all too great.
                            I have rev 1
                            But i dont know that rev 2 has macros removed... could you post me a proof link?

                            I have not used rev 1 in beta.

                            The only cons of rev1:
                            - its wire has special port and is not durable enough (some wrote it breaks)
                            - M4 and M2 buttons are not responsive
                            - four M-buttons are paired (not separated) so you could not to press M1+M2 for ex
                            - touchpad does not have not tracking zone like DS4 has (for clicking touchpad w/o tracking)
                            - i hav not problems with triggers form and layout, but some people had
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                            Fighting games PSYCHOLOGY Guide
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                            • Yaari
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 1496

                              #29
                              Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                              Originally posted by SUGATA
                              I have rev 1
                              But i dont know that rev 2 has macros removed... could you post me a proof link?

                              I have not used rev 1 in beta.

                              The only cons of rev1:
                              - its wire has special port and is not durable enough (some wrote it breaks)
                              - M4 and M2 buttons are not responsive
                              - four M-buttons are paired (not separated) so you could not to press M1+M2 for ex
                              - touchpad does not have not tracking zone like DS4 has (for clicking touchpad w/o tracking)
                              - i hav not problems with triggers form and layout, but some people had
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/NRPC/commen...oller_support/

                              There are more sources for it but I don't really wanna go around to post them here, you are just going to have to take my word for it.

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                              • MalformedDC2009
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 279

                                #30
                                Re: Nacon Pro Controller 2 (Double Button Mapping)

                                I just noticed that's PS4 only. For anyone on Xbox One, you might want to look at this one:

                                Power A Fusion Pro Controller for Xbox One




                                At about 4:45 he mentions double button mapping is possible with this too.

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