prohibit game changers from lecs

[Haz____]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

"Gamechangers" for almost all other competitive games aren't allowed to play in the events. Works across the board; not just in Video Games, with everything from Magic:the Gathering tournaments, to Video Game tournaments.

No idea why they are allowed to play for UFC tournaments.

[Onzahh_]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

"Gamechangers" for almost all other competitive games aren't allowed to play in the events. Works across the board; not just in Video Games, with everything from Magic:the Gathering tournaments, to Video Game tournaments.

No idea why they are allowed to play for UFC tournaments.

And I have no idea how you could get hit with 6 overhands in a row..

[Millennium]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

"Gamechangers" for almost all other competitive games aren't allowed to play in the events. Works across the board; not just in Video Games, with everything from Magic:the Gathering tournaments, to Video Game tournaments.

No idea why they are allowed to play for UFC tournaments.

I don't know of any GCs banned from any other EA tournaments. EA doesn't give the glitches to the GCs - the GCs report them to EA. If the glitches are todl to the GCs it's normally in an effort to communicate them to the general population.

[RetractedMonkey]

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Next to no reason not to let them compete. GCs are picked because they are good, they aren't good because they were picked.

They won't be winning the LEC this year now that I'm back in the game though anyway. I didn't stick around last time. They're gonna get that OG Team Gauntlet beating.

[Dave_S]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

Next to no reason not to let them compete. GCs are picked because they are good, they aren't good because they were picked.

They won't be winning the LEC this year now that I'm back in the game though anyway. I didn't stick around last time. They're gonna get that OG Team Gauntlet beating.

Have fun using the same fighter over and over and over, ect....

[RetractedMonkey]

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Have fun using the same fighter over and over and over, ect....

I'm unfamiliar with the rules, but aren't LEC fighters all even?

[Dave_S]

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I'm unfamiliar with the rules, but aren't LEC fighters all even?

I thought the stats are supposed to be. Height and reach are what they are. Fighters had correct movesets, not sure about levels. You picked a few perks out of some they provide.

Even if they were all even, I likes to mix it up. Playing with same fighter over and over is dreadful to me. I know I won't win anyways.

[Haz____]

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And I have no idea how you could get hit with 6 overhands in a row..

Because I was making a video to show how broken stamina is....

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Many of you guys seem to have a HUGE ego problem, that you just can't seem to look past.

[Haz____]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

Next to no reason not to let them compete.

I played high level tournament Magic:The Gathering for years. Traveled all around to go to different events. Legacy Format. ~$1000-$3000 decks. I've written primers for some of the most complex hardcore decks out there. Big prizes on the line. When Wizards brought in Pro players to help with balance & design, guess what? They weren't allowed to compete anymore.

It works this way for literally every competetive game across the board.

It's called a Conflict of Interest.
-a situation in which a person or organization is involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation or decision-making of that individual or organization.

In other words. A guy like Kinetic, having influence on the Devs to cater mechanics towards his playstyle, and having inside info, which in a tournament setting, gives him a huge advantage.

[aholbert32]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

I played high level tournament Magic:The Gathering for years. Traveled all around to go to different events. Legacy Format. ~$1000-$3000 decks. I've written primers for some of the most complex hardcore decks out there. Big prizes on the line. When Wizards brought in Pro players to help with balance & design, guess what? They weren't allowed to compete anymore.

It works this way for literally every competetive game across the board.

It's called a Conflict of Interest.
-a situation in which a person or organization is involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation or decision-making of that individual or organization.

In other words. A guy like Kinetic, having influence on the Devs to cater mechanics towards his playstyle, and having inside info, which in a tournament setting, gives him a huge advantage.

I see your point but I think you are overestimating the amount of influence or inside info he will have. If its anything like UFC 2, the money LEC will be in the summer which gives players 5 months to play the game. At the time of the LEC, high level players will have the same information as Kenetic when it comes to game mechanics.

Also, if this happens we may lose two gamechangers and their replacements wont likely provide the quality of input that they provide. Back in 2015, the EA Forums chose Tweedy because he was one of the better competitive players, he knew the ends and outs of the game and he could help with the competitive balance of the game. As you know, Kenetic took his spot when Tweedy was inactive. You cant ask one of the top competitive players to provide regular input on the game and then ask them to make a big sacrifice like not competing in the LEC.

If I'm Kenetic or Zack and I have to choose between a pretty good chance at winning 10k and a trip to Vegas or working for free on the game...I'm choosing the 10k. I think most people would make that choice. So simply because there is a perceived (not actual but perceived) advantage, the game is worse off because two of the most active gamechangers were forced off the team.

[Yaari]

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Argument aside I'd be disappointed if the same people hit the top leaderboards again. I hope the game is different enough for some others to get up there.

[WarMMA]

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^ur avatar is so wrong right now. Conor ain't champion of **** let's be real. He's as much of a champion as GSP was.

I used to love Conor... Now I'm just waiting for this era to be over. Tony is going to drag him into deep waters and murder him. I don't even really like Tony either but yeah. Khabib needs to come in and smash them all lol

I know it's off topic, but yh Conor needs to just defend a damn belt for once. At this point though, I think the guy has got so much money that he doesn't wanna fight anymore and honestly he doesn't need to with that kind of money. On a side note though, I have reason to believe KNRG is actually Conor on here trolling us all.

[ZombieRommel]

Re: prohibit game changers from lecs

We generally get 20-30 hours of playtime on a broken-@ss build of the game that has almost no resemblance to what actually hits retail, because by the time the game hits shelves we've already spent months talking to the devs telling them how whack some of their mechanics are and how the game is going to be cheesy and abusable if they don't fix them.

By the time LEC hits (which btw, isn't confirmed for UFC3 to my knowledge), you guys have already had months with the game, to the point that our initial 20-30 hours playing a broken game and eating sometimes-pizza but mostly carrots and turkey wraps (meanwhile dying of thirst since the air is so dry and thin in Canada) means nothing.

It's true we have open access to GPD and other devs to ask them in-depth questions about the game, but so do you. That's one of the reasons GPD is such a dapper fellow. He sticks his head into the forums and is willing to ignore the mindless hate threads to address genuine concerns and answer questions from well-meaning players who buy his game and support his work.

So, as long as you're polite (IE not an @ss-bag), none of us really have any knowledge advantages. Kenetic and ZHunter are really good and spar each other hundreds of times, so they sometimes find little gameplay quirks that help them get ahead, but they don't have a developer whispering secrets into their ears. They are just trying stuff out and labbing like anybody else can. The advantage is that they're both good and both friends, but anybody can do what they do. That's why certain arcade scenes (example the west coast of California) got so good at fighting games. The best people congregated in one area and played against each other a lot. That's how anybody gets good. I played against Martial dozens of times in Ranked in UFC1 and UFC2 (ZHunter and Kenetic didn't have PS4's). I used to play against guys like DivineKnives in Rivalries. Ranked alone gives you good matches every now and again, a lot of one-trick ponies who don't teach you much, and a lot of cheesers. But it's rare you find people who are really really good. You sort of have to seek them out unless you get lucky (like I did with Martial).

That's how you get good enough to win LEC's. It has zero to do with anybody being hand-held by devs. If you can't already tell, GPD goes out of his way to be as transparent as possible about the mechanics. That's why he pushed for the GA meter to be added to the Practice Mode of UFC2. It's why you can see every damage meter in UFC3. It's why he does interviews answering questions and puts out bible-sized blogs about the mechanics.

Some good players were chosen to be GC'ers, but being a GC'er doesn't just instantly make you good or confer any kind of lasting advantage.

[straycat113]

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The way the striking system is now set up which is much more closer to real life. I will go out on a limb to say I believe the LEC winner will not be a favorite! A big load of elite players are going to be suffering a lot more losses in general with the new striking system. With one strike KO capability many excellent players will get slept by an inferior opponent who just happens to slip and counter at the right time (with many may not even knowing how they did it lol) but will get the upset just the same.

[Trillz]

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Tbh the best grapplers will be at the top of the leaderboards as there is no danger of a one strike KO.