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  • GameplayDevUFC
    Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
    • Jun 2014
    • 2830

    #166
    Re: New Stamina Updates Video

    Originally posted by Phillyboi207
    GPD how often should we expect a video detailing changes made since the Beta?
    Recorded one today, hopefully it will come out tomorrow but no guarantee on that as it just snowed and Vancouver doesn't do well in snow.

    There should be a third after that we were hoping to get out this week as well, but time will be tight.

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    • GameplayDevUFC
      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
      • Jun 2014
      • 2830

      #167
      Re: New Stamina Updates Video

      Originally posted by WarMMA
      What did he say, if you don't mind sharing? I'd honestly like to know what exactly he didn't like about it so much that he would want to go back to UFC 2 striking. A few hardcores I know had some issues with the learning curve of the controls, but other than that they thought the striking was amazing.
      Here's the thread:

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      • WarMMA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4612

        #168
        Re: New Stamina Updates Video

        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
        Similar to the issues the other hardcore fans I know had. It's the controls for the most part...seems like it's a bit too complex for some. Tbh, when I first heard about the control changes, I was thinking you guys may have had a simplified control scheme for players who just wanna pick up and play.

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        • Yaari
          MVP
          • Feb 2014
          • 1496

          #169
          Re: New Stamina Updates Video

          It was challenging for all of us, I did not like it at first either, when you put in the time, you'll probably end up feeling it was worth the trade. Special moves were by far the worst but I think most people can get used to the basic stuff and then the single modifier strikes without too much problems.

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          • Not_Entertained
            Rookie
            • Jul 2017
            • 314

            #170
            Re: New Stamina Updates Video

            Originally posted by WarMMA
            Similar to the issues the other hardcore fans I know had. It's the controls for the most part...seems like it's a bit too complex for some. Tbh, when I first heard about the control changes, I was thinking you guys may have had a simplified control scheme for players who just wanna pick up and play.
            Forget the pick up and play gamers. If they don't want to put in the time and effort, then that's on them.

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            • Benjy7
              Rookie
              • Dec 2017
              • 37

              #171
              Re: New Stamina Updates Video

              Originally posted by Not_Entertained
              Not every game is supposed to be fun and enjoyable. What matters more is the experience. The best games are like works of art. Instead of aiming to provide temporary satisfaction, they give you an experience that has a lasting effect on you. E.g. The Last of Us and stuff like that are clear examples of this. The Last Of Us isn't just a mere video game, it's something much more than that. Something that actually makes you "care".

              Same with MMA games. I mean, the people that will complain about the game being boring and unfun, should go play Call Of Duty as they'll find plenty of entertainment to be had there. Providing an accurate MMA experience that resembles the sport is something much more special and much more meaningful than just providing entertainment.
              When i said fun and enjoyable, i also mean a game that works and is stable in every way.

              Yes i want UFC3 to be a great experience. i just see a lot of people trying to bash UFC3, even after the developers have fixed things. But not every idea we give will make it into the game and not every idea needs too. Fixing 1 thing can probably break something else. I want this game to be as realistic as it can be but i would rather have it be a playable and stable game that functions right.

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              • Not_Entertained
                Rookie
                • Jul 2017
                • 314

                #172
                Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                Originally posted by Benjy7
                When i said fun and enjoyable, i also mean a game that works and is stable in every way.

                Yes i want UFC3 to be a great experience. i just see a lot of people trying to bash UFC3, even after the developers have fixed things. But not every idea we give will make it into the game and not every idea needs too. Fixing 1 thing can probably break something else. I want this game to be as realistic as it can be but i would rather have it be a playable and stable game that functions right.
                Ah, I get what you're saying. I think everyone would agree with that!

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                • Serengeti1
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 1720

                  #173
                  Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                  Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
                  I stated in a previous thread, I think only certain fighters should have 360 head movement. Only so many fighters utilize it well enough irl.
                  I don't think this should be the case. Reason being is minimal movement slips are VERY important. They are the primary head movement defence for fighters. The most basic. If you go and watch a few fights right now and just watch the fighters' heads you'll see this.

                  The stats/perks/whatever should dictate how easy it is to utilise. One thing is for certain... an ideal head movement system isn't going to be possible this game. However, I hope the head movement is at least as good as it can be in this game and they make the changes discussed in this thread for the next game.

                  This isn't trivial. It genuinely matters for the MMA simulation experience. It would add great depth to the game if done well. There's no way it could be OP either because kicks and grappling will sort anyone out who's really good at head movement. Just like IRL. If someone is constantly slipping your straight punches.... You can throw a head kick.

                  Anyway, thank you GPD for the striking changes thus far. They're great. This should be one of the next aims imo. Dynamic/highly responsive head movement. It would be a game changer.
                  Last edited by Serengeti1; 12-19-2017, 07:01 PM.

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                  • WarMMA
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4612

                    #174
                    Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                    Originally posted by Not_Entertained
                    Forget the pick up and play gamers. If they don't want to put in the time and effort, then that's on them.
                    Yh after you put the time in it's so much easier.

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                    • Rolltide1980
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2017
                      • 454

                      #175
                      Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                      Hahaha,surely he can't be serious,changing the striking back to EA UFC 2. If they did that,it would basically be a carbon copy of EA UFC 2,minus the roster update. That guy must have a serious glue huffing addiction or some serious psychological issues,no other explanation and I've pretty much gone down the list of all possibilities. SMDH 😑

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                      • Playrules
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 28

                        #176
                        This will force users to fight like a real MMA fight keeping into consideration stamina.
                        Of course, this could all go wrong if the measurements of stamina have been stuffed up, but for now this looks like a welcome improvement.

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                        • iHazCode
                          Rookie
                          • May 2016
                          • 397

                          #177
                          Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                          I just wanted to respond quick to both the people saying that adding stamina will negatively impact the "fun" or "balance" in this way or that way. As well as re-iterate my two biggest requests to make this game (non gameplay) feel more authentic.

                          As for the balance, and fun.. I feel that if you can appreciate MMA, anything that pushes this more towards realism will make it have more longevity overall. Yeah it may not be fun initially. Good fights become more like chess than slug-fests sometimes. It may not be balanced or fun to have one jab stop you for example, but the reality is that every strike matters and you should be trying not to be hit before almost everything else. But those who chose to put in the time to learn the game, will also (if they aren't already) have a bigger appreciation for the sport and maybe even become legit fans.

                          As for my biggest wishes:

                          * Please make the Refs really do their job, I'm talking TKO's, Saving fighters by pulling off an enraged opponent, and even calling in the Dr (instead of the announcers just saying it). This will make the end of fights feel more real, and less jarring/gamey as they have been.

                          * Please remove the HUD, at least for your opponent. This again will add a HUGE layer of strategy on top of each fight, which will definitely improve the longevity of the game. I did very well in UT in UFC 2, and played with HUD disabled (even my own) because of how silly it seemed to me to be able to see my opponents. I must say, without even seeing my own it felt SO much better, and forced me to implement more realistic game-plans thinking any strike could be the one that put me on the mat. @GamePlayDevUFC please, please, please at least remove the opponents HUD bars.

                          * Please make every strike from every position be effective. People can be punished from almost any position, and I feel this should be reflected in the game. In addition if you want to grapple on the ground, I sure hope that translates well into the MASSIVE stamina it should consume with the new stamina system. I only say this because it adds more strategy and many more things you should take into account when creating your game-plan.

                          Thanks for listening!

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                          • melo627
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 393

                            #178
                            Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                            @gpd please tell me one of these videos will be a new knockouts Ragdoll? Man I love this game it would suck to have those animations just kill the game for me.

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                            • Trillz
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1369

                              #179
                              Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                              Originally posted by melo627
                              @gpd please tell me one of these videos will be a new knockouts Ragdoll? Man I love this game it would suck to have those animations just kill the game for me.
                              he said there should be another video ciming out today!
                              Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/im2good4u1
                              PSN: Headshot_Soldier

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                              • melo627
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 393

                                #180
                                Re: New Stamina Updates Video

                                Really!? I thought he just said a improvement video.he said ko video??

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