Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

[Trillz]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

I count 43 that want it gone in some way. Most of those people are probably hardcore into EA UFC.

I'm curious how many of those 43 tried breaking through block on the ground without the meter, or tried any gameplay without it.

thats a game issue that needs to be addressed somehow because ea ufc 2 was fine with the Ground and pound. maybe i didnt agree with some positions of power like the side back mount but in general it was fine.

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

Really hope this makes it in - will take the game to its full potential.

[Dave_S]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

thats a game issue that needs to be addressed somehow because ea ufc 2 was fine with the Ground and pound. maybe i didnt agree with some positions of power like the side back mount but in general it was fine.

I thought UFC 2 was fine also. I originally hated idea of additional meters. If ground game in UFC 3 is like the beta I'll take the block meter please and thank you.

[DaisukEasy]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

I count 43 that want it gone in some way. Most of those people are probably hardcore into EA UFC.

I'm not. I just want an authentic experience.

I'm curious how many of those 43 tried breaking through block on the ground without the meter, or tried any gameplay without it.

Played FNC.

Online without your opponents meters felt like a fairly accurate boxing experience (until you ran into Straight spam cheesers).

Offline with everyones meters showing or gone felt like an arcade game.

Decisions happened regularly online because you don't have perfect knowledge of your opponents resources. Offline, KO's galore.

I'm guessing this will be a similar experience.

[Dave_S]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

FNC and UFC are very different games. Maybe the striking is somewhat similar now? I only played that game a handful of times. Can you throw strikes from clinch in fight night?

[Finesse7]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

Out Of 59 Votes 46 Want It Gone In Some Way , ANd 4 Don’t Care So That Can Go Either Way , Is There Really A Discussion Here ? Please Devs Get Rid Of The Bars

[DaisukEasy]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

FNC and UFC are very different games. Maybe the striking is somewhat similar now? I only played that game a handful of times. Can you throw strikes from clinch in fight night?

They're as different as MMA and Boxing.

But in terms of how the bars affects the gameplay they're pretty much the same.

Out Of 59 Votes 46 Want It Gone In Some Way , ANd 4 Don’t Care So That Can Go Either Way , Is There Really A Discussion Here ? Please Devs Get Rid Of The Bars

As much as I want the bars gone in ranked play. It's not as easy as having a simple majority vote on this forum.

Over a million people bought UFC2, the vast majority never come here at all. It takes a certain type of person to bother coming to this forum and discussing the game. We're usually more competitive and passionate about both the game and MMA in general. Just because we're winning this poll doesn't mean this poll is necessarily accurately reflecting what everyone thinks. Just what we think on this forum.

So for the Dev team it's not as simple as just reading poll results. If we want to convince anyone we'll have to come up with arguments as to why a certain thing would improve the game. Not just that the hardcores on this forum want change. And even then they might opt not to do it.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

We didn't have a block meter on EA UFC 1 & 2 and people pounded others for TKO wins without issue.

There was arm health, which is essentially a less informative meter... but still a meter.

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

There was arm health, which is essentially a less informative meter... but still a meter.

There was also a referee that says something along the lines of defend yourself.

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

The lack of this change will make or break the game for me. Being able to see my opponents stamina and know exactly where they stand is something that's made the previous games so cookie cutter. This would be the thing that takes it over the top of the Undisputed series in my opinion.

So much tension is captured with one simple change. Lots of uncertainty - will feel like a real fight.


Can we start a petition?

[Serengeti1]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

The visual cues are there for the stand up but the ground game is alot trickier.

I wish the grappling didnt rely so much on short term stamina

Why not have no HUD but have a stamina bar for the ground? Because I agree that no stamina bar on the ground would probably be eh.

[Yaari]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

Why not have no HUD but have a stamina bar for the ground? Because I agree that no stamina bar on the ground would probably be eh.

Ground will be a problem yeah. You'd get people taking eachother down just to see their stamina capacity then though.

[Acebaldwin]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

Ground will be a problem yeah. You'd get people taking eachother down just to see their stamina capacity then though.

It wouldnt be that much of a problem though if you think of it this way: denials make the one getting denied more tired. Going for a submission after having denied means he's more tired to successfully escape. Transitionning and striking means he's being active, meaning he's also getting tired. The speed of those transitions and the denials being easier to do, also gives a glimpse as to how tired he is. Same as with the striking being slower and arduous to land also does. Sumbission attempts that results in a denial or escape also gets you tired.

It's not just about visual cues but logic in this case too. It would certainly make it so the submissions arn't one done deals as if you knew exactly the condition of your opponent at every moment of the fight. It would mean having skills in detecting those opportunities or weaknesses instead of relying on a skill that basically goes down to being able to read both stamina bars, making it literally a battle of stamina bars.

[Serengeti1]

Re: Opponent's health, guard and stamina meter bars should be hidden, do you agree?

Yeah, I'd imagine anything is better than the battle of stamina bars we currently have actually. It's a big part of why I don't like the ground game now that I think about it. I'm good at it but I often just get bored, rush to get out, and get submitted. It's just boring. I'm competitive with the best players but yeah.

I can actually feel my opponent staring at the stamina bars while we're playing. It's lame.

[iHazCode]

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Absolutely agree with OP. I played both of the original UFC games with the HUD disabled and it was really surprising how much better the game felt. I did a lot better in ranked too, likely because it forced me to constantly play strategically.