EA Sports UFC 3 Beta Feedback Video #2

[MalformedDC2009]

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Yeah, I'm waiting for a video where they say they are adding 360 degree, reactive head movement and trimming a few frames off of all strikes to increase responsiveness.

[Not_Entertained]

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It just comes from how I was taught. Single kicks are higher risk for the same reward as a set up kick, so why on earth would I ever throw a single kick? (As a lead, counter kicks are a thing that you should do)

I do think that single kicks are a touch slow, but I think it's necessary for them to have impact in a video game. Like, Barboza speed kicks in a game where 1 head kick can put you out would be really, really broken, especially if there was any latency online, so it's basically a realism hit I'm willing to take for playability reasons.

Muay Thai fighters use single kicks all the time. Watch someone like Yodsanklai and Samkor or in fact pretty much any Thai boxer and you'll see.

[Nugget7211]

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Muay Thai fighters use single kicks all the time. Watch someone like Yodsanklai and Samkor or in fact pretty much any Thai boxer and you'll see.

Not to overly generalise, but most pure Muay Thai fighters have bad hands and the counters to single kicks are stepping in with a straight(or whatever punch combination you prefer) or a takedown (which obviously doesn't exist in Muay Thai in the same way it does in MMA.)

I was making a semi-joking overly simplistic statement, which I should've been clearer about and that's on me, but it's almost always better to set up your round kicks and I like that the game encourages it but still allows effective single kicks (switch kicks to the body or teeps, for example)

[aholbert32]

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Yeah, I'm waiting for a video where they say they are adding 360 degree, reactive head movement and trimming a few frames off of all strikes to increase responsiveness.

You will be waiting a while for this one.

[LittleEvil]

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It just comes from how I was taught. Single kicks are higher risk for the same reward as a set up kick, so why on earth would I ever throw a single kick? (As a lead, counter kicks are a thing that you should do)

I do think that single kicks are a touch slow, but I think it's necessary for them to have impact in a video game. Like, Barboza speed kicks in a game where 1 head kick can put you out would be really, really broken, especially if there was any latency online, so it's basically a realism hit I'm willing to take for playability reasons.

You are describing very basic set ups though. Like ending a combo with a kick. But obviously there are other set ups. If I box your face off and see a high guard for defense cause of it, I do't need to combo into a kick. I can just rip one to the body knowing hands up has become the reactionary defense.

Recent TJ vs Cody fight is another great example of more complicated set ups that lead to successful individual kicks. TJ was trying to set things up too much in round 1, his corner told him that, and in round 2 they told him just let **** rip.

So yeah morale of the story is comboing into a kick is just a basic and fundamental way your taught to use them at a beginner level, but of course there are other ways. And of course the game should have one off kicks be faster than kicking in combo

[MalformedDC2009]

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You will be waiting a while for this one.

Lol yeah all the way until UFC 4 haha

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[Nugget7211]

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So yeah morale of the story is comboing into a kick is just a basic and fundamental way your taught to use them at a beginner level, but of course there are other ways. And of course the game should have one off kicks be faster than kicking in combo

Why should one off kicks be faster? It's way easier to kick if you use either a step or another strike to pre-load your hips (which most people need to do to throw hard kicks.) I'd have no problem with people like Barboza or Pettis having a perk that made them kick faster out of stance, but I don't understand why people think kicks in combination should be slower.

Obviously, if you mean that just low kick should be faster than 2-3 low kick, sure, but the low kicks themselves should be at least the same speed, if not faster in combination.

[Malaach]

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Submission questions.

- Do all Flying Submissions that had one or two gates get bumped up to five or four?
- Did the back Clinch RNC Submission Gate # also get increased?
- Do Submissions with less gates only apply to finish the fight now? (Imo that approach what makes sense if it is that way because it's the closest thing to having a submission bonus of a rocked opponent as it was in UFC Undisputed when submitting a rocked opponent.)

I'm liking these changes showing the community the hard work you developers are doing to show you guys actually listen to the community. Thank you EA Devs!

[holyjesus]

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Are we getting a new video today?

[Not_Entertained]

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Not to overly generalise, but most pure Muay Thai fighters have bad hands and the counters to single kicks are stepping in with a straight(or whatever punch combination you prefer) or a takedown (which obviously doesn't exist in Muay Thai in the same way it does in MMA.)

I was making a semi-joking overly simplistic statement, which I should've been clearer about and that's on me, but it's almost always better to set up your round kicks and I like that the game encourages it but still allows effective single kicks (switch kicks to the body or teeps, for example)

Many have tried "stepping in with a straight" and they still couldn't do anything about it. If you have someone that's a very good kicker, they can easily neutralise your boxing with their kicks.

[GameplayDevUFC]

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Are we getting a new video today?

Yes........

[tissues250]

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come on! its tiiiiiime!

[Serengeti1]

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Many have tried "stepping in with a straight" and they still couldn't do anything about it. If you have someone that's a very good kicker, they can easily neutralise your boxing with their kicks.

I don't think this is true. I think boxing is going to be the go-to on this game for the high level players...

But what I will say is the balance of boxing and kicking is much better on this game than UFC 2. Boxing was bad on UFC 2.

[Nugget7211]

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I don't think this is true. I think boxing is going to be the go-to on this game for the high level players...

But what I will say is the balance of boxing and kicking is much better on this game than UFC 2. Boxing was bad on UFC 2.

I agree with this, mostly because lead high kicks aren't as quick as jabs any more haha

[Solid_Altair]

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Submission questions.

- Do all Flying Submissions that had one or two gates get bumped up to five or four?
- Did the back Clinch RNC Submission Gate # also get increased?
- Do Submissions with less gates only apply to finish the fight now? (Imo that approach what makes sense if it is that way because it's the closest thing to having a submission bonus of a rocked opponent as it was in UFC Undisputed when submitting a rocked opponent.)

I'm liking these changes showing the community the hard work you developers are doing to show you guys actually listen to the community. Thank you EA Devs!

No. Some of the submissions, specially the clinching ones, don't have animations for all 5 stages. So, they sorta must remain with few stages. It was great that they could change the Imanari roll to 4 gates.