GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

[Haz____]

Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

To say you're harping on a feature that has no bearing on the outcome of ANY fights within the game, nor the game play itself. You can post gifs all you would like of it happening, that is still not going to change the fact that GPD clearly stated why the feature was removed.

You're posting in here because you have targeted me.

You are also yelling at me for communicating my side of this threads topic, which is the literal point of this forum. To have discussions on set topics. And guess what this thread is about? Finishing the fight. Which is what i'm talking about. So get over it, and move on. You are literally contributing nothing to this conversation, and your posts have expressed nothing but calling me out.

Now i'm going to continue to express my opinion, and discuss this topic.

[mannyonelover]

GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

You likely had it shut down because it was an unreasonable request. EA will never have the rights to THQ's franchise and would never remake a game that has a roster outdated by a decade, nor would they abandon all of their work. Nor would the UFC allow that. Just a simple logical deductive checklist would've prevented that topic. There is discussion of UD3 all over this board. An entire topic dedicated to the game also probably stretches the bounds of what's considered "on-topic" here as well.

I Understand that EA can’t revive a THQ game, however 2K 18 picked up where NBA LIVE left off and now they reign supreme in basketball games you learn from someone else’s Mistakes and successes .... and it is clear to see for the game being as old as it is THQ was going towards the right direction and instead of having all these different threads Let’s call it for what it is , UD3 is the blueprint !
EA is doing a great job but he can learn heavily on the platform of that game and it just seems to me they really haven’t looked at the details it’s not plagiarism to look at the intricacies of gameplay and make them better even if you looking at something prior to your interpretation you’re not reinventing the wheel....At the end of the day it’s still a MMA game.. It just seems to me like EA is taking three steps forward then one step back.. when it has more tools at its disposal then THQ had?!?


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[OleAgony]

Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

You're posting in here because you have targeted me.

You are also yelling at me for communicating my side of this threads topic, which is the literal point of this forum. To have discussions on set topics. And guess what this thread is about? Finishing the fight. Which is what i'm talking about. So get over it, and move on. You are literally contributing nothing to this conversation, and your posts have expressed nothing but calling me out.

Now i'm going to continue to express my opinion, and discuss this topic.

I'm not even going address the first two sentences you wrote other than to say...HA! Please.

Now, you're right...this is to have discussions on set topics and to use your word "contribute" to said dicussion. What exactly have you contributed over the last 20 some odd pages other than the same exact opinion...with different gifs? Me? Oh I probably haven't added a whole bunch to this talk, for sure. But yeah, I'll call you out because you are willing ignoring what a freakin developer has told you about why a feature is not present. As if it was never said and GPD never posts on here. It's your way, or it's stupid. Here's a grand idea...don't purchase a product you are not happy with. Your beloved feature will probably never make it into the game this go around. Chalk it up to bad luck and move on to other things so we as a community could come up with better ideas to make the game better instead of wasting energy on a losing battle. There. I contributed.

[FCB x Finlay]

Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

Probably the best fix is to increase the frequency of severe knockdowns and reduce the amount off clean ko's. Also to solve the active knockdown problem they could only allow the automatic standing knockdown to happen in the middle of the octagon and for ones beside the cage to go into guard.

But to shut down someone who is pointing out what happens in actual mma is silly, and it is also silly to keep posting saying the same thing when quite clearly there is a reason it isnt in the game.

[TheShizNo1]

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That’s my point exactly you stated it’s in almost every thread why not have a specific thread that can compare ideas from both games ? Instead of having mentioned consistently in every subject of the matter ? it is obvious that UD3 holds a lot of influence in MMA gaming and should be a blueprint to build from because it seems no matter where you start we come full circle back to that game.
Let’s have a specific thread comparing it’s strength and weaknesses to accurately pinpoint what the next UFC game needs to look like?!?


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Because, if you've been here long enough you've seen how it just goes in circles of piling on EA. UD3 is only brought up to discredit the current games. While I understand holding it as the standard, it gets old as hell seeing the same arguments. One thread won't stop that. Trust me. I tried that route of having a one thread fits most topic.

You're posting in here because you have targeted me.

You are also yelling at me for communicating my side of this threads topic, which is the literal point of this forum. To have discussions on set topics. And guess what this thread is about? Finishing the fight. Which is what i'm talking about. So get over it, and move on. You are literally contributing nothing to this conversation, and your posts have expressed nothing but calling me out.

Now i'm going to continue to express my opinion, and discuss this topic.

Really, it's you that needs to get over it and move on. GPD has addressed this, game changers have addressed this as well as many others. You and others continue to beat the **** outta this dead horse even after being given multiple perspectives about why this isn't the way that you want it.

I Understand that EA can’t revive a THQ game, however 2K 18 picked up where NBA LIVE left off and now they reign supreme in basketball games you learn from someone else’s Mistakes and successes .... and it is clear to see for the game being as old as it is THQ was going towards the right direction and instead of having all these different threads Let’s call it for what it is , UD3 is the blueprint !
EA is doing a great job but he can learn heavily on the platform of that game and it just seems to me they really haven’t looked at the details it’s not plagiarism to look at the intricacies of gameplay and make them better even if you looking at something prior to your interpretation you’re not reinventing the wheel....At the end of the day it’s still a MMA game.. It just seems to me like EA is taking three steps forward then one step back.. when it has more tools at its disposal then THQ had?!?


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And 2K didn't pick up where Live left off. I almost don't even know what that means. Depending on who you ask, 2K has been it's own game and kicking Live's *** since it first dropped on the Dreamcast.

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[Haz____]

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I'm not even going address the first two sentences you wrote other than to say...HA! Please.

Now, you're right...this is to have discussions on set topics and to use your word "contribute" to said dicussion. What exactly have you contributed over the last 20 some odd pages other than the same exact opinion...with different gifs? Me? Oh I probably haven't added a whole bunch to this talk, for sure. But yeah, I'll call you out because you are willing ignoring what a freakin developer has told you about why a feature is not present. As if it was never said and GPD never posts on here. It's your way, or it's stupid. Here's a grand idea...don't purchase a product you are not happy with. Your beloved feature will probably never make it into the game this go around. Chalk it up to bad luck and move on to other things so we as a community could come up with better ideas to make the game better instead of wasting energy on a losing battle. There. I contributed.

1st of all. here is the OP.

In a now closed thread GPD said this in regards to Finish the Fight after a standing KO:

"As for the KO's from standing, we got a lot of feedback on UFC 2 from consumers, critics (JRE) and the UFC themselves that beating on an unconscious opponent didn't represent the sport well.

So there was a deliberate decision to not allow the ability to dive on the opponent if it was a full on KO, if we didn't have ref interactions. We don't have ref interactions, because we didn't have to resources to put that in given the rest of the work we needed to do, so that was the decision that was made."

I'm here to open discussion on this matter further, rather than letting it die after that statement.

Notice the bold. This is the literal topic of discussion in this thread.......

2nd...

I just went through all of your posts and you literally don't have 1 single post that's on topic or relevant. You have 21 posts. 10 of them are arguing with me. The other 10 are totally random.


What have I contributed?
Thousands of posts. Guides. Breakdowns. Research. Stats. Evidence. A point of view. Real discussion.

The fact mods are liking your off topic posts is insane to me.

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Shiz is complaining about seeing the same arguments made over and over. Well guess what, there is a reason this stuff gets brought up so much. Because it's important to the players. And this is where we are supposed to come to talk about what's important to us.


If there is 10 threads made on the same topic, each one exploding with discussion, you would think that's something worth paying attention to.

[mannyonelover]

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I’ve played games since double dribble oldschool and believe me NBA live had its golden days, but yes you are correct 2K ran with the ball... but NBA live initially set a standard.


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[TheGentlemanGhost]

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I Understand that EA can’t revive a THQ game, however 2K 18 picked up where NBA LIVE left off and now they reign supreme in basketball games you learn from someone else’s Mistakes and successes .... and it is clear to see for the game being as old as it is THQ was going towards the right direction and instead of having all these different threads Let’s call it for what it is , UD3 is the blueprint !
EA is doing a great job but he can learn heavily on the platform of that game and it just seems to me they really haven’t looked at the details it’s not plagiarism to look at the intricacies of gameplay and make them better even if you looking at something prior to your interpretation you’re not reinventing the wheel....At the end of the day it’s still a MMA game.. It just seems to me like EA is taking three steps forward then one step back.. when it has more tools at its disposal then THQ had?!?


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I can't agree U3 was the blueprint. I think all the MMA games thus far had it's highs and lows and the lows really hurt each game from me really thinking "yeah, this is about as good as it gets". I feel like we are close to getting that with EA UFC, but I still go back to EA MMA or U3 to get something else I'm not getting yet. I just want comparable clinch and ground game from U3, with EA MMA's ratings/attributes system and sub system. EA UFC is on the right path with a good dev team, going back and using U3's foundation now would be a setback.

[TheShizNo1]

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The fact mods are liking your off topic posts is insane to me.

Because what he said isn't wrong. You've been given an answer by a dev and continue your fight still. Now would be a good time to practice what you preach when telling others to move on.

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[mannyonelover]

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I can't agree U3 was the blueprint. I think all the MMA games thus far had it's highs and lows and the lows really hurt each game from me really thinking "yeah, this is about as good as it gets". I feel like we are close to getting that with EA UFC, but I still go back to EA MMA or U3 to get something else I'm not getting yet. I just want comparable clinch and ground game from U3, with EA MMA's ratings/attributes system and sub system. EA UFC is on the right path with a good dev team, going back and using U3's foundation now would be a setback.

Hmmmm.. I agree that they are making progress but UD3 still carry’s weight.. regardless, that’s why it’s EA thorn that’s hard to pick out.


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[FCB x Finlay]

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You're posting in here because you have targeted me.

You are also yelling at me for communicating my side of this threads topic, which is the literal point of this forum. To have discussions on set topics. And guess what this thread is about? Finishing the fight. Which is what i'm talking about. So get over it, and move on. You are literally contributing nothing to this conversation, and your posts have expressed nothing but calling me out.

Now i'm going to continue to express my opinion, and discuss this topic.

Haz id recomend joining the discord that has been set up, bit more of an open minded discussion and better for conversation, a lot of us have differing opinions but that is good.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

I’ve played games since double dribble oldschool and believe me NBA live had its golden days, but yes you are correct 2K ran with the ball... but NBA live initially set a standard.


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My bad. Your wording made me think you were saying 2K just surpassed Live with 2K18.

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[TheShizNo1]

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bit more of an open minded discussion

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[Haz____]

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Because what he said isn't wrong. You've been given an answer by a dev and continue your fight still. Now would be a good time to practice what you preach when telling others to move on.

Read the Op at least....

In a now closed thread GPD said this in regards to Finish the Fight after a standing KO:

"As for the KO's from standing, we got a lot of feedback on UFC 2 from consumers, critics (JRE) and the UFC themselves that beating on an unconscious opponent didn't represent the sport well.

So there was a deliberate decision to not allow the ability to dive on the opponent if it was a full on KO, if we didn't have ref interactions. We don't have ref interactions, because we didn't have to resources to put that in given the rest of the work we needed to do, so that was the decision that was made."

I'm here to open discussion on this matter further, rather than letting it die after that statement.

That is the actual point of this thread.... To discuss this... Holy moly...

[FCB x Finlay]

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? Why the gif, i am right, we have a lot of differing opinions and responses are quicker due to the format.