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  • TheGentlemanGhost
    MVP
    • Jun 2016
    • 1321

    #31
    Re: This whole "Finish" issue

    Originally posted by martialxd
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    KO then Finish The Fight
    that is what we need it !!!

    come'on this is "video game"
    why your make game look like Social justice warrior

    stop talk about bcuz balabalabala.......
    This is video games !!!
    just make fun and entertainment
    look how many video game is kill people ???
    even E-Sport they still have kill people game
    None of those games where you kill people represent a sport that is owned by an actual organization. Some of you guys really don't get the whole "representing a sport/company" thing and I really don't get this need to continue punching a KOed opponent so badly. Madden has had to remove things from concussions being in the game to tattoos at one point all to appease the NFL. So this is nothing new for me to witness as a sports gamer.

    Right now, we just need to get refs involved probably as a long term solutions and for short term, hopefully get a smoother, less abrupt ending to fights that end with a KO.
    Last edited by TheGentlemanGhost; 01-26-2018, 06:25 AM.

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    • YourFatZebra
      Rookie
      • Nov 2017
      • 320

      #32
      Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

      Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
      None of those games where you kill people represent a sport that is owned by an actual organization. Some of you guys really don't get the whole "representing a sport/company" thing and I really don't get this need to continue punching a KOed opponent so badly. Madden has had to remove things from concussions being in the game to tattoos at one point all to appease the NFL. So this is nothing new for me to witness as a sports gamer.

      Right now, we just need to get refs involved probably as a long term solutions and for short term, hopefully get a smoother, less abrupt ending to fights that end with a KO.

      I understand your point, as I've understood the point the whole time, but I just don't think it's right.

      Taking concussions out of a football game is ****ing ludicrous. Just straight up. No other way about it. That's one of the best examples of whitewashing I've ever seen.

      That's the problem with things like this nowadays. Rather than actually standing by what we want, what we think should happen, we silently cave and use the same rhetoric the UFC or the NFL or EA or whoever use to justify our own opinions.

      Example: "I really hate that titles have been devalued in the way they have. McGregor needs to fight. But the UFC needs to make money, and that boxing match was uber money. So I guess we'll have to wait and see on McGregor."

      That is what people do, they justify being forcefed crap with the same handfisted logic the people feeding the crap to them use. Like, I am not the UFC. I am not Dana White. I do not care about the amount of money they make, what they want, what they think. I am going to express my opinion, the things I want and stand by those things. Not just shut up because this is the way the culture is going and we have to "Get used to it".

      Next they'll be trying to remove blood or something, and people like you will defend it by saying "I mean they already had to take out extra shots after the KO so it's nothing new." No bashing intended, I'm just saying that I get your mentality, but it does nothing to advance the situation to justify a bad decision by pointing at other bad decisions.

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      • TheGentlemanGhost
        MVP
        • Jun 2016
        • 1321

        #33
        Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

        Originally posted by YourFatZebra
        I understand your point, as I've understood the point the whole time, but I just don't think it's right.

        Taking concussions out of a football game is ****ing ludicrous. Just straight up. No other way about it. That's one of the best examples of whitewashing I've ever seen.

        That's the problem with things like this nowadays. Rather than actually standing by what we want, what we think should happen, we silently cave and use the same rhetoric the UFC or the NFL or EA or whoever use to justify our own opinions.

        Example: "I really hate that titles have been devalued in the way they have. McGregor needs to fight. But the UFC needs to make money, and that boxing match was uber money. So I guess we'll have to wait and see on McGregor."

        That is what people do, they justify being forcefed crap with the same handfisted logic the people feeding the crap to them use. Like, I am not the UFC. I am not Dana White. I do not care about the amount of money they make, what they want, what they think. I am going to express my opinion, the things I want and stand by those things. Not just shut up because this is the way the culture is going and we have to "Get used to it".

        Next they'll be trying to remove blood or something, and people like you will defend it by saying "I mean they already had to take out extra shots after the KO so it's nothing new." No bashing intended, I'm just saying that I get your mentality, but it does nothing to advance the situation to justify a bad decision by pointing at other bad decisions.
        Not much you can do unless you think Dana or Roger Goodell and company are actually gonna care to listen to us over a video game which they already have the licensing money of anyway.

        All we need are;

        *More TKOs for FTF to kick in.

        *TKOs to make the downed opponent actually look somewhat responsive until the fight is called or they are actually KOed.

        *And ref interaction.

        Those are my issues, I don't mind not being able to hit a KOed opponent, EA MMA was the same and I never even noticed it until now. My only issue is how abrupt it cuts off in EA UFC and maybe how many KOs happen now. Fighters simply havent been following up with multiple shots on KOed opponents most times lately either b/c they just don't or the ref steps in. Not following up on KOs is really not even a problem to me because it was never too realistic anyway.

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        • SMOKEZERO
          Pro
          • Apr 2016
          • 818

          #34
          Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

          Maybe UFC 2 overshot in many aspects, but I loved it because it did. That game landed with a big splash from UFC 1 and I felt I could ride that wave until a couple months ago. UFC 3's conservative politics has me looking at other games in my library already.


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          • YourFatZebra
            Rookie
            • Nov 2017
            • 320

            #35
            Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

            Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
            Not much you can do unless you think Dana or Roger Goodell and company are actually gonna care to listen to us over a video game which they already have the licensing money of anyway.

            All we need are;

            *More TKOs for FTF to kick in.

            *TKOs to make the downed opponent actually look somewhat responsive until the fight is called or they are actually KOed.

            *And ref interaction.

            Those are my issues, I don't mind not being able to hit a KOed opponent, EA MMA was the same and I never even noticed it until now. My only issue is how abrupt it cuts off in EA UFC and maybe how many KOs happen now. Fighters simply havent been following up with multiple shots on KOed opponents most times lately either b/c they just don't or the ref steps in. Not following up on KOs is really not even a problem to me because it was never too realistic anyway.

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            I mean that's totally fair, I'm not necessarily talking about them specifically I'm speaking more generally.

            I'm saying like, if we just accept one issue with little to no explanation, or an explanation that some of us think is kind of ridiculous, then that leads to accepting whatever else bad is in the game without voicing that opinion.

            I just worded it way too harshly and I apologize for that.

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            • mannyonelover
              Pro
              • Apr 2016
              • 645

              #36
              Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

              What’s crazy it’s an easy fix the solution is in their hands just bring that back!!


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              • TheGentlemanGhost
                MVP
                • Jun 2016
                • 1321

                #37
                Re: This whole &quot;Finish&quot; issue

                Originally posted by YourFatZebra
                I mean that's totally fair, I'm not necessarily talking about them specifically I'm speaking more generally.

                I'm saying like, if we just accept one issue with little to no explanation, or an explanation that some of us think is kind of ridiculous, then that leads to accepting whatever else bad is in the game without voicing that opinion.

                I just worded it way too harshly and I apologize for that.
                Well, that's kinda more so your battle than mine because it just doesn't bother me. We should just have ref interaction, I don't necessarily care about strikes after the finish. Just the ref which was never there either way lol. That's my only gripe. I always preferred a good clean KO over topping it off with strikes after the KO, but besides it being a preference, I just don't think it's as necessary to add punches after the fight as much as just having a ref there to stop it properly. But for god's sake EA, let us admire our handy work (the KO) more than a second before cutting off the fight. That's what's really bothersome to me.

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                Last edited by TheGentlemanGhost; 01-26-2018, 04:25 PM.

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