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  • thedeadchicken89
    Rookie
    • May 2016
    • 45

    #16
    Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

    In over half my fights people engage with a body hook or straight. Like seriously? Who engages with a body shot at the starts of fights?

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    • zeric
      Pro
      • Aug 2016
      • 700

      #17
      Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

      I agree with op. Strike output should mean more than who can land more body strikes when it comes to stamina

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      • Malaach
        Pro
        • Aug 2017
        • 503

        #18
        Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

        Do you have a screenshot or video of this fight? How many of those strikes landed, and how many missed? Also what did your remaining stamina bars look like?

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        • Solid_Altair
          EA Game Changer
          • Apr 2016
          • 2043

          #19
          Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

          Are you guys fighting people using lots of body punches and having lots of denials when grappling? Stamina doesn't seem excessive at all, from where I'm standing.

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          • SMOKEZERO
            Pro
            • Apr 2016
            • 818

            #20
            Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

            Stamina is excessive if you aren't using top tier fighters. I play mainly online quick fight in WW and LW divisions. Guys will select 5 rounds and pick Diaz. If they fight somewhat defensive, even being out classed, the Diaz stamina perks alone change the tide of the fight. I used Laprise and put on a clinic, but into the 4th I was completely gassed. Laprise has mediocre stats in game, but irl the guy fights at a high pace. My high percentage of well placed strikes and damage didn't matter because of the stats. I couldn't put Nate away. Went from a 3 round was to KO'd in the 4th. The stamina snowballing is so bad with the low tier fighters. Stat disadvantage ok, but why are these guys also penalized so bad in health stats? There needs to be a bottom end "ceiling" with stamina so you can at least fight. I won't play anything other than 3 round accelerated clock.


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            • Phillyboi207
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 3159

              #21
              Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
              Are you guys fighting people using lots of body punches and having lots of denials when grappling? Stamina doesn't seem excessive at all, from where I'm standing.
              The issue is that in order for your opp to gas on the feet you have to land a ton of body strikes or make them whiff.

              Someone like Lewis should not be able to throw 500 strikes and have like 65-70% stamina left

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              • dina1229
                Rookie
                • Jan 2018
                • 104

                #22
                Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                Are you guys fighting people using lots of body punches and having lots of denials when grappling? Stamina doesn't seem excessive at all, from where I'm standing.
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                This is an example. There was less than 1 minute of ground game in this fight. This guy blitzed me non stop for all three rounds. I finished the fight with almost 90 percent stamina and he was 60 percent or better. Do the math on how many power shots this guy was throwing out of the total strikes thrown. It's like 72 percent.

                When a heavyweight can blitz you like that for three rounds it's bs. I should have been able to weather the storm and make him pay in the later rounds. His accuracy was terrible. Instead I was sitting there in the third round left with no choice but to just chuck leather.

                Go ahead and make the argument that a spammer should be easily countered but that's not always the case. This guy was mixing up his strikes very well. I still managed to block or evade a large percentage but when he doesn't need to take a pause to refill his gas tank it leaves you sitting there playing defense for all three rounds. It's bs. It forces you to just throw and throw wrecklessly. The combo system was designed to encourage more realistic fights. They claimed that was the goal for the stand up. It isn't happening from what I've experienced.

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                • dina1229
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 104

                  #23
                  Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                  Honestly with the current system you are only punishing people that are new to the series. The guys that just whiff strikes the entire time get punished hard. However, the people that are whiffing strikes non stop are likely to be people that aren't good at video games or don't really understand MMA. I don't feel like this is the largest percentage of people that bought the title. Once you get into your true fan base, these people start in D4. People aren't whiffing strikes non stop. They are up in your face and they can throw stupid volume the entire fight.

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                  • Solid_Altair
                    EA Game Changer
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 2043

                    #24
                    Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                    I agree that some stamina perks, specially Higher Altitude, are too strong.

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                    • Find_the_Door
                      Nogueira connoisseur
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4051

                      #25
                      Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                      Originally posted by SMOKEZERO
                      Stamina is excessive if you aren't using top tier fighters. I play mainly online quick fight in WW and LW divisions. Guys will select 5 rounds and pick Diaz. If they fight somewhat defensive, even being out classed, the Diaz stamina perks alone change the tide of the fight. I used Laprise and put on a clinic, but into the 4th I was completely gassed. Laprise has mediocre stats in game, but irl the guy fights at a high pace. My high percentage of well placed strikes and damage didn't matter because of the stats. I couldn't put Nate away. Went from a 3 round was to KO'd in the 4th. The stamina snowballing is so bad with the low tier fighters. Stat disadvantage ok, but why are these guys also penalized so bad in health stats? There needs to be a bottom end "ceiling" with stamina so you can at least fight. I won't play anything other than 3 round accelerated clock.


                      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                      That's how it is for me with Big Nog - at 86 striking stamina you'd think the guy never throws on the feet.
                      Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                      • neyney00
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 264

                        #26
                        Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                        Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                        Are you guys fighting people using lots of body punches and having lots of denials when grappling? Stamina doesn't seem excessive at all, from where I'm standing.
                        THIS! Stamina feels great! Everyone is overreacting to pretty much everything on this game but that is typical for the mma gaming crowd.

                        Everyone needs to be ok with taking some L's why we figure everything out. I had a fight today where I got spanked but I loved it. Dude was Johnson and I was Gus. He kept side swaying and catching me with bombs. I played in to his game and was trying to get those shots back and rushed in and dude kept catching me. By the time I was ready to adapt it was a full round. My head health was wrecked and I had no chance after that. Lesson learned.

                        The only issue I see with the whole game right now is the fluidity in takedowns and clinch attempts from the standing position. The next patch should fix that from what I've heard.

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                        • Phillyboi207
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3159

                          #27
                          Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                          Originally posted by neyney00
                          THIS! Stamina feels great! Everyone is overreacting to pretty much everything on this game but that is typical for the mma gaming crowd.

                          Everyone needs to be ok with taking some L's why we figure everything out. I had a fight today where I got spanked but I loved it. Dude was Johnson and I was Gus. He kept side swaying and catching me with bombs. I played in to his game and was trying to get those shots back and rushed in and dude kept catching me. By the time I was ready to adapt it was a full round. My head health was wrecked and I had no chance after that. Lesson learned.

                          The only issue I see with the whole game right now is the fluidity in takedowns and clinch attempts from the standing position. The next patch should fix that from what I've heard.
                          It’s not about losing. I win the majority of my fights but the current system forces you to go to the body. Irl most dudes dont

                          I just want people to gas if they’re coming out swinging non stop.

                          I’ve watched quite a few fights where the attacker is beating his opponent’s *** so bad that the winner gasses then ends up losing.

                          Overeem vs bigfoot is one of the best examples.

                          The only way to do that now is by going to the body.
                          Last edited by Phillyboi207; 02-04-2018, 05:17 PM.

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                          • neyney00
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 264

                            #28
                            Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                            Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                            It’s not about losing. I win the majority of my fights but the current system forces you to ho to the body. Irl most dudes dont

                            I just want people to gas if they’re coming out swinging non stop.

                            I’ve watched quite a few fights where the attacker is beating his opponent’s *** so bad that the winner gasses then ends up losing.

                            Overeem vs bigfoot is one of the best examples.

                            The only way to do that now if by going to the body.
                            Not true. You can do it just as well by making your opponent miss. I get that in some cases your fighter might not have good enough movement to win the movement battle. I experience this in quick match as I often go lower rated fighters. If skill is equal i would prefer it this way as it leads to fighters feeling different.

                            Say you and I fight and are equal skill. You pick McGregor and I pick Kevin Lee. I'm not going to be able to control distance at all in that match. What I can control is I'm going to clinch and takedown attempt you. I know I have a stat advantage on the ground. I know your going to pick me apart on the feet. If you kept distance it would be tough for me to win. I like it this way.

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                            • Phillyboi207
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 3159

                              #29
                              Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                              Originally posted by neyney00
                              Not true. You can do it just as well by making your opponent miss. I get that in some cases your fighter might not have good enough movement to win the movement battle. I experience this in quick match as I often go lower rated fighters. If skill is equal i would prefer it this way as it leads to fighters feeling different.

                              Say you and I fight and are equal skill. You pick McGregor and I pick Kevin Lee. I'm not going to be able to control distance at all in that match. What I can control is I'm going to clinch and takedown attempt you. I know I have a stat advantage on the ground. I know your going to pick me apart on the feet. If you kept distance it would be tough for me to win. I like it this way.
                              No I understand that as well. I’ve been picking low tiers in quick fight for practice and I have no issue makig my opp gas.

                              The issue is NOT an inability to make your opp gas. You can do that through movement and bodyshots. Im great at utilizing both.

                              The issue is that your opponent doesnt have to worry about the risk/reward of being aggressive vs gassing out even if they’re landing the majority of their strikes. Frankie Edgar vs Maynard 2. Lesnar vs Carwin.

                              Carwin and Maynard put down such an *** whooping in round one(LANDED or BLOCKED strikes) that they gassed. Thay cannot happen the way the stamina currently works.

                              That is the issue

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                              • unclebobbydana
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 40

                                #30
                                Re: I threw 500 strikes in a 3 round fight with Black Beast

                                There's so many issues like this the devs in charge dont realize it adds up.

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