I hope a lesson can be learned here

[mikenyc721]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Look there are somethings in this game I like but there is a lot of things I don't! Undisputed 3 came out in 2012 its now 2018 and I'm sorry to say but undisputed was far better then this. Its like were moving backwards and I understand the devs worked hard on this game and it does show improvements since ufc 2 but if they would listen to the fans of mma and not just game changers I'm pretty sure they would have a way better game Imo!! Now I know patches are coming and granted they may help in some areas but for the most part there are a lot of flaws patches can't fix. I was just as hyped as anyone else for this game but once I started playing it felt dull and unpolished not really what I expected after 2 years. Yes the striking is much improved with its own faults such as input lag and knockouts being mediocre at best!! Stamina was improved, Roster was improved, No real change to the ground game. Career mode an absolute joke!!!!! fans have been saying they wanted the career mode to be deeper with interactive press conferences and weigh ins so they tease it in the trailer and when the game drops ...... yea not so much!! There most certainly is a lesson to be learned here....BELIVE IT WHEN YOU SEE IT....

[iHazCode]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I don't subscribe to the negativity in this thread but I do hope the development team will learn that they are only making it more difficult for themselves by introducing game mechanics which then need to be justified to the end user.
UD3 was relentless, but most things which people didn't like boiled down to "that's how it works in the sport". You don't like 1 headkick knockouts, do better avoiding them, etc..

This franchise needs to study the source a bit closer, especially with regards to damage and stamina. The rest will fall into place after that.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Give me a break! Getting so sick of the negative posts. The ea UFC development team is great. Especially GPD. They worked really hard and are doing a great job. The game is really good and they will keep working to improve it. I feel very fortunate to have them make this game.

We shouldn't have to hold our tongue's just because the devs are nice guys and worked hard on the game. I totally respect that, but UFC 3 simply isn't good in a lot of areas. Issues need to be ironed out and new approaches considered. Staying quiet when we're not happy with the product helps nothing.

[mannyonelover]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

You guys take criticism way too personal but he’s right sales are not great and the games ratings are mediocre , They change the striking which is good but they also made changes without really discussing it with the community , exclusion finish the fight and knock out animations , Ultimate team is the disaster, and the beta was too short, The game at its core is very good with the new striking system however the game has major flaws and overall took a major steps back in overall representation of MMA!
More is better!! That’s why UD3 Would’ve been by now light years ahead of this game!
Now let all the fanboys rip off their panties in anger by the comments he made, because he didn’t sound politically community correct for you guys it’s his opinion and he has some valid points, .... don’t get me wrong I’m a fan boy of MMA first!! Not just of a specific game developer!!
And some of you act like someone insulted your girlfriend or your mom don’t worry about the Devs I bet they have thick skin and are used to this!
They could only get better from now.....


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[mannyonelover]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

We shouldn't have to hold our tongue's just because the devs are nice guys and worked hard on the game. I totally respect that, but UFC 3 simply isn't good in a lot of areas. Issues need to be ironed out and new approaches considered. Staying quiet when we're not happy with the product helps nothing.

My point exactly criticism leads to changes but some of these guys act like their criticisms only count , they have a sense of false privilege because they want to game tailored specifically to them, every opinion counts and if you don’t have that mindset good luck with just pleasing 10 guys who post the most on these forms, The EA groupies!!



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[gbmbjj]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I want a video game that closely replicates the nuances of MMA; not a game calibrated and tweaked to death so some dude(s) can say they're #1 on a make-believe board.

[bcelts]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I am not saying people can’t complain and voice there opinions! I just can’t believe all the negative threads!

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I am not saying people can’t complain and voice there opinions! I just can’t believe all the negative threads!

You're not the only one.

there's more negativity lately on these forums than anything from UFC 2. And UFC 2 had stun lock parries on every strike and strikes that did almost no damage with no vulnerability system and random health events.

I'm honestly shocked.

Don't bother replying as I won't be visiting this thread again.

[mannyonelover]

I hope a lesson can be learned here

You're not the only one.



there's more negativity lately on these forums than anything from UFC 2. And UFC 2 had stun lock parries on every strike and strikes that did almost no damage with no vulnerability system and random health events.



I'm honestly shocked.



Don't bother replying as I won't be visiting this thread again.

Ouch ! Someone hit a nerve.....
it all good! Believe in yourself bro it’s just a bump in the road , we got you![emoji106]it will all be good at the end!!


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[ImAnOlogist]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Criticism isn't hoping someone gets punished for developing a product you personally don't like.

You shouldn't be comparing product from company A to product from Company B.

Nothing about your criticism is even constructive, the development team has heard your voice, they understand the problems and they're well aware MMA games are a niche fighting game that caters to a small and quite clearly a melodramatic player base, that small crowd isn't even represented by the small number of active users here in this forum.

[Dave_S]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I'm not surprised by negativity in the least. Most people will normally post issues they have with the game more often than making "praise" posts.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Criticism isn't hoping someone gets punished for developing a product you personally don't like.

Who in here is asking for that? That's a narrative you've painted in your own head. People just want improvements, whoever is able to do them. I certainly don't want to see people fired or punished, especially when I believe they're capable of continuing to push this game forward.

You shouldn't be comparing product from company A to product from Company B.

The only ongoing comparisons that are being made in this forum are either from EA's own games (UFC 2, FNC) or UFC Undisputed 3. In the case of the latter, it's an MMA game that's highly regarded, so it naturally makes sense to compare the two.

Nothing about your criticism is even constructive, the development team has heard your voice, they understand the problems and they're well aware MMA games are a niche fighting game that caters to a small and quite clearly a melodramatic player base, that small crowd isn't even represented by the small number of active users here in this forum.

The argument that this forum doesn't speak for the majority of the player base comes up every so often, but it's one that falls on deaf ears for me. The average person who plays this game doesn't care enough to bother getting on forums to say how they feel one way or the other. They're content throwing some punches and kicks, and beating up on their friends. Would you be more receptive to reading comments here if they were all positive? Sorry.

Even though I've been very active in voicing my displeasure with elements of the game, I can understand how it can seem like a bit much right now. When you open up the EA UFC page, it just looks like an never-ending list of people bitching. That's unfortunate and hopefully things will lighten up again soon, but there's nothing wrong with people being honest about how they feel.

[bcruise]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Who in here is asking for that? That's a narrative you've painted in your own head. People just want improvements, whoever is able to do them. I certainly don't want to see people fired or punished, especially when I believe they're capable of continuing to push this game forward.

The OP did Pappy....and since there's no quote in the post you quoted, I'm pretty sure the poster was addressing the OP.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

The OP did Pappy....and since there's no quote in the post you quoted, I'm pretty sure the poster was addressing the OP.

Well, I apologize for overlooking that. I assumed he was speaking in general, not to me or anyone else specifically. I definitely don't agree with OP on the punishment thing. Disregard my comments towards ImAnOlogist, but I stand by my points in the broader sense.

[mannyonelover]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

LISTEN .....The issues with negative post particularly in theses forums about the game most of the time have merit and a rest are contributed to personalities , frustration, and clash of ideas , and some members seem to Bogart the forums by not acknowledging the games downfalls and suck up to the DEVS , the game is flawed , however it has MASSIVE POTENTIAL!
But but it seems like the ideas of only the divas of the community, buff out the forums in whole, but that’s a different subject!
We can sit here and give the game much praise with the praise is not going to make it better pointing out the negative‘s in finding a fix ,
You’re going to hear a lot of negative because everyone wants to prioritize what they feel the game better ,
So GPD decision to prioritize someone idea over others leaves the community more frustrated and you will continue to hear negative objections of gameplay,
It might sound petty but it’s true.
This is an idea they should take heed to as the complaints come in have a post with bullet points of the complaints they have acknowledged.. and are working on so you won’t hear the same negative feedback of the game!?



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