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  • johnmangala
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4525

    #1

    Vulnerability?

    What are the vulnerabilities windows? We never really got a breakdown.

    Like a jab should be more vulnerable to hooks and cross counters.

    Something about vulnerability spikes, when are they?
  • Solid_Altair
    EA Game Changer
    • Apr 2016
    • 2043

    #2
    Re: Vulnerability?

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    Punches generally leave you more vulnerable to the head at the opposite side you're striking with, during execution; and at the same side, during recovery. If it's an advancing unch it also has high vulnerability in the front of your face. Overhands have a high vulnerability to uppers. And even the locations that don't have this high vulnerability still have some vulnerability.

    Kicks follow a similar logic.

    The body is vulnerable in the open (belly) side or liver side. And during kicks, the open side actually depends on the animation.

    Leg is more vulnerable for lead punches and advancing strikes in general, I think.

    And the vulnerability peak is about the fact that vulnerability isn't conceded in the same degree during the whole animation. It starts a bit low, usually peaks at the middle fo the execution (which does NOT look like the middle of the animation, it's actually quite early), then gets high again early in the recovery and drops down at late recovery.

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    • johnmangala
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4525

      #3
      Re: Vulnerability?

      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
      https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/ufc/u...king-deep-dive

      Punches generally leave you more vulnerable to the head at the opposite side you're striking with, during execution; and at the same side, during recovery. If it's an advancing unch it also has high vulnerability in the front of your face. Overhands have a high vulnerability to uppers. And even the locations that don't have this high vulnerability still have some vulnerability.

      Kicks follow a similar logic.

      The body is vulnerable in the open (belly) side or liver side. And during kicks, the open side actually depends on the animation.

      Leg is more vulnerable for lead punches and advancing strikes in general, I think.

      And the vulnerability peak is about the fact that vulnerability isn't conceded in the same degree during the whole animation. It starts a bit low, usually peaks at the middle fo the execution (which does NOT look like the middle of the animation, it's actually quite early), then gets high again early in the recovery and drops down at late recovery.
      Interesting. Is there any video demonstrating the vulnerability spikes?

      It says ducking is vulnerable to uppers and knees, but ducking usually slips those.

      Also the following is about another thread you started but you didn't reply there..

      How do you do the Thompson shifting kicks (stepping through into opposite stance through strike).

      There were shifting strikes sorta like this in EA UFC 1 and a bit in 2, however they were removed and now you can only strike after the feet cross. I would like to see them come back crisper.

      So what exactly is the input for those shifting kicks?

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      • Solid_Altair
        EA Game Changer
        • Apr 2016
        • 2043

        #4
        Re: Vulnerability?

        Originally posted by johnmangala
        Interesting. Is there any video demonstrating the vulnerability spikes?

        It says ducking is vulnerable to uppers and knees, but ducking usually slips those.

        Also the following is about another thread you started but you didn't reply there..

        How do you do the Thompson shifting kicks (stepping through into opposite stance through strike).

        There were shifting strikes sorta like this in EA UFC 1 and a bit in 2, however they were removed and now you can only strike after the feet cross. I would like to see them come back crisper.

        So what exactly is the input for those shifting kicks?
        Sorry I missed the question in the other thread. You have to do his rear stationary kicks and press switch stance right after.

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        • GameplayDevUFC
          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
          • Jun 2014
          • 2830

          #5
          Re: Vulnerability?

          I'd like to put out a video demonstrating the vulnerability, but I'm waiting on permission to show footage from our debug testbed.

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          • Solid_Altair
            EA Game Changer
            • Apr 2016
            • 2043

            #6
            Re: Vulnerability?

            And head movement has vulnerability, too. So do lunges. Even walking has it. And even being iddle has a little bit to certain sides of the body (open side and liver side).

            One thing I took a while to realize was that walking to the side of a body roundhouse counts as a counter hit and results in a bigger hitstun. This is something very important to notice, because normally the target has a big frame advantage, but this case he has a disadvantage.

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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #7
              Re: Vulnerability?

              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
              Sorry I missed the question in the other thread. You have to do his rear stationary kicks and press switch stance right after.
              Thank you.
              So it works only for stationary kicks? Does it work for any other strikes?

              I hope this mechanic is tuned for punches and other strikes so we can have shifting strikes again.

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              • Solid_Altair
                EA Game Changer
                • Apr 2016
                • 2043

                #8
                Re: Vulnerability?

                Originally posted by johnmangala
                Thank you.
                So it works only for stationary kicks? Does it work for any other strikes?

                I hope this mechanic is tuned for punches and other strikes so we can have shifting strikes again.
                As far as I know, only for those kicks. TJ has some shifting punches of sorts, bu he switches back and forth by himself. He doesn't end up in a different stance.
                Last edited by Solid_Altair; 02-11-2018, 03:13 PM.

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                • johnmangala
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4525

                  #9
                  Re: Vulnerability?

                  Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                  As far as I know, only for those kicks. TJ has some swifting punches of sorts, bu he switches back and forth by himself. He doesn't end up in a different stance.
                  Are those from combining his sig lunges and strikes?
                  How do you do it exactly? I have heard do the sig lunge and uppercut and you'll do a special strike.

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                  • Solid_Altair
                    EA Game Changer
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 2043

                    #10
                    Re: Vulnerability?

                    He has an inside lunge (L1 and Left Stick Flick) and a forward lunge (L1 and RIGHT Stick). He has some unique strikes off of those. His advancing 1-2-3 from teh forward one ends with a pivoting switching hook thingy. And going for a hook after his sideways lunge has a switch look to it, too.

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                    • johnmangala
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4525

                      #11
                      Re: Vulnerability?

                      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                      He has an inside lunge (L1 and Left Stick Flick) and a forward lunge (L1 and RIGHT Stick). He has some unique strikes off of those. His advancing 1-2-3 from teh forward one ends with a pivoting switching hook thingy. And going for a hook after his sideways lunge has a switch look to it, too.
                      How does the foward lunge work? I can't seem to the any attacks with it. The inside lunge, I was only able to so a switch lead hook.

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                      • Phillyboi207
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 3159

                        #12
                        Re: Vulnerability?

                        Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                        And head movement has vulnerability, too. So do lunges. Even walking has it. And even being iddle has a little bit to certain sides of the body (open side and liver side).

                        One thing I took a while to realize was that walking to the side of a body roundhouse counts as a counter hit and results in a bigger hitstun. This is something very important to notice, because normally the target has a big frame advantage, but this case he has a disadvantage.
                        Ah that explains a lot

                        Being idle should definitely had more vulnerability. If you’re caught not defending that’s like the definition of being caught off guard.

                        I hope damage/vulnerability can be tweaked a bit with live tuning.

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                        • johnmangala
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4525

                          #13
                          Re: Vulnerability?

                          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                          Punches generally leave you more vulnerable to the head at the opposite side you're striking with, during execution; and at the same side, during recovery. If it's an advancing unch it also has high vulnerability in the front of your face. Overhands have a high vulnerability to uppers. And even the locations that don't have this high vulnerability still have some vulnerability.
                          What does this exactly mean?

                          Say for mirror stance, if i throw a jab what would I be more vulnerable to? And of the straight?

                          And in open guard?

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                          • johnmangala
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4525

                            #14
                            Re: Vulnerability?

                            Some clarity on vulnerability?

                            What does vulnerable to opposite side exactly mean?

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