New meta: constant block breaking combos?

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

I’ve played four fights tonight and in all four, my opponents were, pretty much off the bat, trying to break my block, usually with the jab, straight, jab, straight, lead hook, hook combo.

Due to the near uselessness of the back lean and back lunge, these players’ strategy is quite viable. It would be great if there was a strategy to deal with this that didn’t involve dice rolling, because when I try to block a strike, then duck, the second strike tends to hit anyway. I think a buff to the back lean/lunge where the strikes (that aren’t overhands, I believe overhands should magnetise) don’t magnetise to our heads would do the job.

You might ask “how do we finish people when they’re rocked if the back lunge is all you need to escape block break combos?”. Well I’m fairly certain that the ability of the back lean/lunge is already diminished when rocked.

Keen to hear all your thoughts.


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[neyney00]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

You can either sway and hook. Or let the jab straight hit your block and time a counter straight to intercept their next strike followed by a lead hook. Obviously the second option has to be very quick.

[bmlimo]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

I’ve played four fights tonight and in all four, my opponents were, pretty much off the bat, trying to break my block, usually with the jab, straight, jab, straight, lead hook, hook combo.

Due to the near uselessness of the back lean and back lunge, these players’ strategy is quite viable. It would be great if there was a strategy to deal with this that didn’t involve dice rolling, because when I try to block a strike, then duck, the second strike tends to hit anyway. I think a buff to the back lean/lunge where the strikes (that aren’t overhands, I believe overhands should magnetise) don’t magnetise to our heads would do the job.

You might ask “how do we finish people when they’re rocked if the back lunge is all you need to escape block break combos?”. Well I’m fairly certain that the ability of the back lean/lunge is already diminished when rocked.

Keen to hear all your thoughts.


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Sway the last strike and body punch

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

You can either sway and hook. Or let the jab straight hit your block and time a counter straight to intercept their next strike followed by a lead hook. Obviously the second option has to be very quick.

That brings me to something else. Head movement baiters. They throw straight punches, almost forcing you to sway but then they throw in hooks after a bit, while you sway.


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[MacGowan]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

Head movement baiters. They throw straight punches, almost forcing you to sway but then they throw in hooks after a bit, while you sway.

An actual real life boxing tactic

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

New meta: constant block breaking combos?

An actual real life boxing tactic

Yes but I know it’s what they’re doing and I don’t know how to/can’t escape it


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[JokerCarnage]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

I use the back lunge quite seems to work good for hooks. As for being baited into a sway if you know they're baiting you don't fall for it. Instead maybe block then throw back or try to beat them to the punch.

[neyney00]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

Start swaying or ducking to avoid strikes but don’t follow with a strike. Safer to go side to side then duck if they are fishing with uppercuts. Mix in the small dash back in there at distance and it should help you out. Also after their combo they should be low on stamina and that is when you fire back.

Focus on working the body after a jab. Also throw jabs with no combo a lot. If they sway then start their block breaking you need to start throwing naked hooks or uppers to try and catch them. Be ready to throw a follow up hook or upper if you do connect. If you take your time and let them hit your block and do the rest of this they should be at a stamina deficit by round two. Start to pick up the pace gradually and by round three really turn it on.

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

Man, nothing you said about the back lunge and lean is true. They are absolutely good tools to counter, especially guys that strike from range and move straight in with punches.


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[Dave_S]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

Man, nothing you said about the back lunge and lean is true. They are absolutely good tools to counter, especially guys that strike from range and move straight in with punches.


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I don't know how it feels on xbox, but on ps4 the backwards lunge often seems janky as hell online. Lots of times I get hit because the lunge doesn't work.

Not all the time, but it happens almost every fight online for me. (I use back lunge a lot in some matches)

[Paledude45]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

In UFC 1 and 2 I NEVER used lunges, I remember when I could just rely on using movement alone. Now it just seems like I'm at a massive disadvantage if I don't use them lol.

[SMOKEZERO]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

Mix in sway leg kick. Very effective as they’ll block high and has the range the hook/upper doesn’t.


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[RetractedMonkey]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

I don't know how it feels on xbox, but on ps4 the backwards lunge often seems janky as hell online. Lots of times I get hit because the lunge doesn't work.



Not all the time, but it happens almost every fight online for me. (I use back lunge a lot in some matches)

You have to preemptively use it or find a gap in their strikes. You generally won’t get a response if you’re already getting hit or blocking strikes.

The back lean works best when you’re already in kicking range and do a quick flick followed by a straight to catch them coming forward. Be leery of kicks though.


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[Dave_S]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

You have to preemptively use it or find a gap in their strikes. You generally won’t get a response if you’re already getting hit or blocking strikes.

The back lean works best when you’re already in kicking range and do a quick flick followed by a straight to catch them coming forward. Be leery of kicks though.


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Thanks.

I have to do it before they throw the strike? Makes sense, those are usually the ones that work, and the ones after I see a strike coming don't.

[Dave_S]

Re: New meta: constant block breaking combos?

I think sometimes you have to be able to lunge after the opponent throws the strike.

I'm thinking that because sometimes you get the old "parry" animation on the lunge depending on the strike your opponent throws. Wouldn't the lunge have to come after the strike input for the game to know to use that animation?