Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

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  • Dave_S
    Dave
    • Apr 2016
    • 7835

    #1

    Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

    This also happens all the time to me

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  • xtremeba1000
    Pro
    • Aug 2017
    • 772

    #2
    Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

    Originally posted by Dave_S
    This also happens all the time to me

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    You can't just shoot for a takedown because someone is rocked. You have to make them miss a strike.

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    • Bigg Cee
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4676

      #3
      Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

      Originally posted by Dave_S
      This also happens all the time to me

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      This only started to happen a lot after this last patch. The GA being removed from ducking down killed the single leg option in competitive online fights.

      Pre patch that would have been an easy takedown on a rocked opponent from a specialist like Maia. After the patch it’s just an easy pre deny with no sense of any danger.

      To me that needs to be automatic takedown, more so against someone like Maia. I’ve been asking for the single leg to be fixed since the game dropped. The double leg is the only thing that still works and it doesn’t even work that well unless your DC or someone that has high stats and the perk that helps with power takedowns.

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      • SteveM584
        Rookie
        • Feb 2018
        • 146

        #4
        Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

        Originally posted by xtremeba1000
        You can't just shoot for a takedown because someone is rocked. You have to make them miss a strike.
        I think he means that his meter filled all the way up, THEN was denied.

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        • Evil97
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1099

          #5
          Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

          I'm 100% on buffing takedowns, but please no auto takedowns after a rock. If he wants to drop his hands to deny, let him.

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          • TheGentlemanGhost
            MVP
            • Jun 2016
            • 1321

            #6
            Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

            Timing for takedowns feel completely backwards. I just noticed it's easier to get takedown immediately after a blocked head kick rather than during a missed head kick...what sense does that make??? It wasn't even like that in UFC 2, so what made them change that?

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            • GameplayDevUFC
              Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
              • Jun 2014
              • 2830

              #7
              Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

              Originally posted by SteveM584
              I think he means that his meter filled all the way up, THEN was denied.
              That will happen if the denial hits the reversal window to give the other guy to opportunity to swoop to prevent it.

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              • SMOKEZERO
                Pro
                • Apr 2016
                • 818

                #8
                Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                Grappling advantage should just be maxed during a rock state.


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                • Dave_S
                  Dave
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 7835

                  #9
                  Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                  I had no idea you could "swoop" takedown attempts.

                  Any more info on this?

                  It happens so often I'm guessing it's the same as when I get perfect swoop on ground transitions even though I didn't swoop.

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                  • MacGowan
                    Sassy
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 1681

                    #10
                    Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                    Not to mention it looks so damn weird.

                    - he's wobbly and it seem's like he doesn't know where he is.
                    - you shoot for a takedown. and he looks like "Why no thank you, good sir."
                    - goes back to being wasted on moonshine.

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                    • Bigg Cee
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4676

                      #11
                      Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                      Originally posted by Dave_S
                      I had no idea you could "swoop" takedown attempts.

                      Any more info on this?

                      It happens so often I'm guessing it's the same as when I get perfect swoop on ground transitions even though I didn't swoop.
                      Same here. I need more info on swoops for takedowns. That’s something i didn’t know.

                      GPD Can you swoop attempting a takedown? Will a takedown be completed faster if i use the swoop? or is it only a defensive option?

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                      • Evil97
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1099

                        #12
                        Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                        You can swoop to avoid takedown reversals, that's it. You still get denied, and it has nothing to do with speed. Same on the mat. It doesn't speed up transitions. If your opponent denies your takedown with a reversal instead of a regular deny, you have the ability to not let it happen every time by perfect swooping. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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                        • Dave_S
                          Dave
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 7835

                          #13
                          Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                          Originally posted by Evil97
                          You can swoop to avoid takedown reversals, that's it. You still get denied, and it has nothing to do with speed. Same on the mat. It doesn't speed up transitions. If your opponent denies your takedown with a reversal instead of a regular deny, you have the ability to not let it happen every time by perfect swooping. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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                          I didn't swoop, I just threw a takedown.

                          Also since the takedown was denied why did the circle fill up all the way?
                          Last edited by Dave_S; 04-16-2018, 02:15 PM.

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                          • Evil97
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1099

                            #14
                            Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                            Originally posted by Dave_S
                            I didn't swoop, I just threw a takedown.
                            I'm assuming that just because the denial window plays out, it doesn't mean that your opponent actually went for the reversal. I have this happen all the time. Maybe it happens when the opponent has the option of a reversal in their arsenal, and so the deny window automatically plays out like that whether they actually do it or not. Kind of like the early deny auto reversals on the ground, but in this case, the player actually has the option to do it or not, so it plays out either way. Hope that makes sense.

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                            • OPSPunk
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 575

                              #15
                              Re: Can anyone tell me why this takedown doesn't work?

                              A few points

                              1. I think we should have auto takedown after a rock...but only if people werent getting rocked all day in this game. Its too easy.

                              2. Maybe not Auto-takedown but extreme grapple advantage that woudl interact with stats. For example irl if some with bad takedown offense like (Nate Diaz) rocked a great wrestler like Khabib he shouldnt get an auto takedown. But if Khabib rocks someone unless its a high level grappler he should take them down with a small window for them to deny it.

                              3. In the example video I think the problem is that Nate takedown offense isnt that great plus Masvidal recovered and has decent TD defense. Now if GSP did that,should be a different story imo

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