Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

[Morgan Monkman]

By elite i mean basically the best fighters in each weight class.

With all the nuances and minuscule changes that are being made, with many of the changes coming from people that exclusively use the best fighters in the game, it is essentially making every other fighter useless.

Block breaking down moving forward might not be a big deal for Conor Mcgregor or tony Ferguson, sure makes a huge difference when i pick ross pearson, or any other crap fighter in any division.

Is that the game we are aiming for? Where everyone uses the same fighters and fights the same way? Because that is the game that is currently happening.

[FlaccoNumba5]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Facts that was a big thing I loved about ufc 2 almost everyone had a legit chance even CM Punk. What would you say would help/ reverse the problem though?

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I just wish the strengths of the lower tier guys was highlighted

Someone like Saki is rated perfectly and I’d love to see more of that

If a guy has a kickboxing background I’d love for his stats to be 90ish. If he has a grappling background the same thing. Just make sure their weak areas are very pronounced like low 80s.

Then let the contenders have 90-95ish range for their strengths but mid-high 80s for weakness unless it’s very pronounced (Maia striking, Overeem chin).

And let chin/heart/ stamina have nothing to do with tiers.

I think a rating system like that would create more balance amonst the roster.

But I know UFC has control over ratings so they want their stars inflated some.

Still much better than it was in UFC 2.

[ungorborongo]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I just wish the strengths of the lower tier guys was highlighted

Someone like Saki is rated perfectly and I’d love to see more of that

If a guy has a kickboxing background I’d love for his stats to be 90ish. If he has a grappling background the same thing. Just make sure their weak areas are very pronounced like low 80s.

Then let the contenders have 90-95ish range for their strengths but mid-high 80s for weakness unless it’s very pronounced (Maia striking, Overeem chin).

And let chin/heart/ stamina have nothing to do with tiers.

I think a rating system like that would create more balance amonst the roster.

But I know UFC has control over ratings so they want their stars inflated some.

Still much better than it was in UFC 2.

this is a huge thing that I've thought about but never communicated.

lots of these guys who are lower ranked are still absolutely outstanding in some facets, but the devs just rate them crap all over

[ImAnOlogist]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I felt like the head health regeneration "Glitch" if we could call it that, actually made playing lower guys viable. I was still able to knock McGregor out with someone like Edgar.

[jigsaw736]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

damn.. I thought you were giving me a compliment

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

By elite i mean basically the best fighters in each weight class.

With all the nuances and minuscule changes that are being made, with many of the changes coming from people that exclusively use the best fighters in the game, it is essentially making every other fighter useless.

Block breaking down moving forward might not be a big deal for Conor Mcgregor or tony Ferguson, sure makes a huge difference when i pick ross pearson, or any other crap fighter in any division.

Is that the game we are aiming for? Where everyone uses the same fighters and fights the same way? Because that is the game that is currently happening.

I'd argue that Ross Pearson isnt supposed to be viable on higher levels of ranked unless you are a significantly better player than your opponent.

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I just wish the strengths of the lower tier guys was highlighted

Someone like Saki is rated perfectly and I’d love to see more of that

If a guy has a kickboxing background I’d love for his stats to be 90ish. If he has a grappling background the same thing. Just make sure their weak areas are very pronounced like low 80s.

Then let the contenders have 90-95ish range for their strengths but mid-high 80s for weakness unless it’s very pronounced (Maia striking, Overeem chin).

And let chin/heart/ stamina have nothing to do with tiers.

I think a rating system like that would create more balance amonst the roster.

But I know UFC has control over ratings so they want their stars inflated some.

Still much better than it was in UFC 2.

Thats harder than you think. There are multiple levels that the ratings went through for UFC 3.

The first level is typically realism based. This is the stage that the devs let me have some input on.

Then the second step is the team will look at the ratings and attempt to balance them a little. The changes surprisingly arent significantly different. I dont recall anything more than maybe 1-3 point changes.

Then we all discussed the changes and landed on ratings that we all were comfortable with.

Then the UFC steps in. So you may think that someone like Dan Hooker should have an 90 in striking. Well, if the UFC doesnt agree, the team has to make the changes to meet those numbers.

Surprisingly the UFC didnt really skew the ratings towards stars. Their input was on alot of fighters that you wouldnt even think they would care about.

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Yeah, I was undefeated until I decided to use Ovince

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Thats harder than you think. There are multiple levels that the ratings went through for UFC 3.

The first level is typically realism based. This is the stage that the devs let me have some input on.

Then the second step is the team will look at the ratings and attempt to balance them a little. The changes surprisingly arent significantly different. I dont recall anything more than maybe 1-3 point changes.

Then we all discussed the changes and landed on ratings that we all were comfortable with.

Then the UFC steps in. So you may think that someone like Dan Hooker should have an 90 in striking. Well, if the UFC doesnt agree, the team has to make the changes to meet those numbers.

Surprisingly the UFC didnt really skew the ratings towards stars. Their input was on alot of fighters that you wouldnt even think they would care about.

Why the hell is the UFC involved in this in the first place?

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Why the hell is the UFC involved in this in the first place?

Because its their license and technically a video game that represents their organization.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Thats harder than you think. There are multiple levels that the ratings went through for UFC 3.

The first level is typically realism based. This is the stage that the devs let me have some input on.

Then the second step is the team will look at the ratings and attempt to balance them a little. The changes surprisingly arent significantly different. I dont recall anything more than maybe 1-3 point changes.

Then we all discussed the changes and landed on ratings that we all were comfortable with.

Then the UFC steps in. So you may think that someone like Dan Hooker should have an 90 in striking. Well, if the UFC doesnt agree, the team has to make the changes to meet those numbers.

Surprisingly the UFC didnt really skew the ratings towards stars. Their input was on alot of fighters that you wouldnt even think they would care about.

Does the UFC pay attention to updates?

Maybe the Devs could low key buff some lower rated guys?

I wish we had a guy dedicated to the ratings the way 2k and Madden does.

Shoot i’d help scout fighters for free if it meant consistent updates

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Does the UFC pay attention to updates?

Maybe the Devs could low key buff some lower rated guys?

I wish we had a guy dedicated to the ratings the way 2k and Madden does.

Shoot i’d help scout fighters for free if it meant consistent updates

Not as much as they do the initial roster but I'm sure they pay attention.

They need a reason to buff them. If a guy is low rated and they need a reason to justify giving him a buff. Take someone like Gilbert Burns.

His power is low (probably too low) and he's knocked out 2 straight fighters so you can make an argument his power should be buffed. But he knocked out Dan Moret and Jason Saggo so he probably isnt going to be buffed so much that his power is going to be significantly more viable.

I think this is a better setup than Madden/2k. Instead of one person, you have a team that approves and vetoes each change. Thats better than one person having a say over each change.

FYI, the devs are looking at the stat change request thread. With that said, you have a better chance of getting a change if a fighter just fought and performed in a way to justify a stat change. I think we are past the point of arguing that a certain fighter should be buffed or nerfed simply because a person thinks they were overrated or underrated.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I think most kinda gave up those arguments since a lot of it fell on deaf ears.

Guida’s stamina isnt elite

Derrick Lewis still doesnt even have the get up perk and that’s his only redeeming quality when it comes to grappling.

Silva doesnt have counter puncher and his chin is lower than it should be.

I’m done my semester this week. If there is a legit chance some of the lower-mid guys could get a buff I will personally go through a decent amount of them and point out where/why they should be buffed.

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I think most kinda gave up those arguments since a lot of it fell on deaf ears.

Guida’s stamina isnt elite

Derrick Lewis still doesnt even have the get up perk and that’s his only redeeming quality when it comes to grappling.

Silva doesnt have counter puncher and his chin is lower than it should be.

I’m done my semester this week. If there is a legit chance some of the lower-mid guys could get a buff I will personally go through a decent amount of them and point out where/why they should be buffed.

They didnt fall on deaf ears. I saw them and so did the devs. The Guida one is legit and could happen when he fights next since the devs like to time changes with when they fight.

I dont have any control or input on the perks.

I've talked about Silva and I disagree with that one.

What I'm asking is if you see a low tier guy who deserves a small buff or nerf let me know and I'll pass it along. It doesnt mean it will happen but many of the changes have happened because of that thread.