This game is so broken

[Counter Punch]

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It wasn't until I saw someone point it out in another thread that I realized that I haven't had a match go to a decision since the last patch. And that's fine as far as trying to keep the game exciting but it also speaks to a complete imbalance in play. I realize the devs want this to be a stand up and bang type game so they can show off all their pretty animations but I think we see that the pendulum has been allowed to swing much too far in one direction.

I really don’t think GPD’s goal is for this to be a stand and bang game. In fact I know its not because he has stated before what his goals are on this very forum.

There were major issues with the striking in UFC 2 and so to give us what we asked for in terms of striking they literwally rebuilt it from the ground up. That was a risky move and I find it hard to believe that they would take such a risk if they didn’t really care about making an ever-more realistic (but still fun) game.

UFC 2 changed a huge amount after release through patches. They are going to keep improving this game as well.

I don’t always agree with him, but I trust GPD and he’s earned the benefit of the doubt with me. I wouldnt want this game in anybody else’s hands, especially with EA being involved.

[GameplayDevUFC]

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My point exactly. All these patches in the THIRD game of the series. Really??? I don't think they even have the excuse of having to tune the game for a new generation console either. It's ridiculous to have to relearn to play a game 3 or 4 times in the third iteration of what is basically the exact same game.

How many patches has God of War released so far?

Patch frequency in this day and age is absolutely not something to be held against a developer.

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How many patches has God of War released so far?

Patch frequency in this day and age is absolutely not something to be held against a developer.

Love the continued input but i believe its the amount and how much it changes everytime.

[Counter Punch]

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How many patches has God of War released so far?

Patch frequency in this day and age is absolutely not something to be held against a developer.

I would go further and say it should be to their credit when developers patch their games frequently.

[teezie]

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How many patches has God of War released so far?

Patch frequency in this day and age is absolutely not something to be held against a developer.

I have no idea because I don't play the current game. I don't even know why a story mode based game would need to be repeatedly patched tbh. But never in the other installments I played did the gameplay change dramatically throughout.

I played Undisputed until they lost the license so I'm aware of necessary patching. But I remember that by the third game in that series they were fine-tuning not overhauling. Appreciate all the efforts but I just honestly expected this franchise to be at that same standpoint by now.

[SUGATA]

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My point exactly. All these patches in the THIRD game of the series. Really??? I don't think they even have the excuse of having to tune the game for a new generation console either. It's ridiculous to have to relearn to play a game 3 or 4 times in the third iteration of what is basically the exact same game.

MKX and Injistice 2 are cybersport games... Do you know how many patches were for them post release?
More than 10-15 patches, which were rebalancing games's Frame data and some game mechanics in every patch! and YES, you were forced to learn something new but for the better balance.

WHY?
because this is a FIGHTING game.
Fighting game is all about BALANCE.
The only true way to tune a Balance is TESTING via community playing this game and its feedback.
So, making new patches for EA UFC 3 is OK.

NOT OK is that:
1) Frame data is closed - it allows to make more detailed and cocnrete feedback to devs from some players
2) the game still has ISSUES in Practice mode:
1. broken Recording tool
2. no Reset button
3. more here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ea-ufc/932461-recording-tool-bugs-how-fix.html

3) and not OK is that NOT ENOUGH response from Devs on cocnrete bug/issue reports of the game INSTEAD of their responding to flame/troll posts and threads b/c it useless waste of resources and time. This is Dev's MISTAKE.

[scyth223]

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I have no idea because I don't play the current game. I don't even know why a story mode based game would need to be repeatedly patched tbh. But never in the other installments I played did the gameplay change dramatically throughout.

I played Undisputed until they lost the license so I'm aware of necessary patching. But I remember that by the third game in that series they were fine-tuning not overhauling. Appreciate all the efforts but I just honestly expected this franchise to be at that same standpoint by now.

Not sure why you're complaining about patches in 2018 especially when they are there to make the game better.

Can we have some new achievements patched in with stuff to do.

Ranked isn't fun.
Career is not great at the moment with the longevity meter.
Ultimate Team is...well

That only leaves quick match and there's only so much quick match I can do. I've been doing the defeat the whole roster on Fight Night Champion achievement and it's fun. Some people might find it a bit grindy but lets be honest fighting Jon Jones 27 times in a row on UFC 3 isn't really that fun either.

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Re: This game is so broken

MKX and Injistice 2 are cybersport games... Do you know how many patches were for them post release?
More than 10-15 patches, which were rebalancing games's Frame data and some game mechanics in every patch! and YES, you were forced to learn something new but for the better balance.

WHY?
because this is a FIGHTING game.
Fighting game is all about BALANCE.
The only true way to tune a Balance is TESTING via community playing this game and its feedback.
So, making new patches for EA UFC 3 is OK.

NOT OK is that:
1) Frame data is closed - it allows to make more detailed and cocnrete feedback to devs from some players
2) the game still has ISSUES in Practice mode:
1. broken Recording tool
2. no Reset button
3. more here:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ea-ufc/932461-recording-tool-bugs-how-fix.html

3) and not OK is that NOT ENOUGH response from Devs on cocnrete bug/issue reports of the game INSTEAD of their responding to flame/troll posts and threads b/c it useless waste of resources and time. This is Dev's MISTAKE.

I have to disagree with you here but i can see your point of view. This is a sports game and balance should always be taken secondary, in the poll regarding as much balance was also agreed on as being secondary to realism.

[SUGATA]

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I have to disagree with you here but i can see your point of view. This is a sports game and balance should always be taken secondary, in the poll regarding as much balance was also agreed on as being secondary to realism.

I am not talking about balance between fighters - this can not be b/c all fighters has different ratings = and this IS your realism.

I am talking about the balance in gameplay features and mechanics , there must to be a balance based on risk/reward as it is irl. More risky = more reward.

So, patching/balancing the gameplay elements NOT conflicts with ratings and realism.

[empenaparatara]

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I would go further and say it should be to their credit when developers patch their games frequently.

normally that would be a good point


not in EA UFC games cases though


its nice that they eventually fix the broken messes that their games are on launch, but it'd be a lot ****ing better if they just made the game NOT broken on launch to begin with


like seriously. Do you remember what the game was like when it released?


its not to their credit that they fix the unfinished joke slowly for months after releasing complete trash.

[empenaparatara]

Re: This game is so broken

MKX and Injistice 2 are cybersport games... Do you know how many patches were for them post release?
More than 10-15 patches, which were rebalancing games's Frame data and some game mechanics in every patch! and YES, you were forced to learn something new but for the better balance.

WHY?
because this is a FIGHTING game.
Fighting game is all about BALANCE.
The only true way to tune a Balance is TESTING via community playing this game and its feedback.
So, making new patches for EA UFC 3 is OK.

NOT OK is that:
1) Frame data is closed - it allows to make more detailed and cocnrete feedback to devs from some players
2) the game still has ISSUES in Practice mode:
1. broken Recording tool
2. no Reset button
3. more here:

3) and not OK is that NOT ENOUGH response from Devs on cocnrete bug/issue reports of the game INSTEAD of their responding to flame/troll posts and threads b/c it useless waste of resources and time. This is Dev's MISTAKE.

the only people who see this as a fighting game are people who aren't good at actual fighting games


this is a sports simulation game first and foremost. If I want to play a good fighting game I'll stick to guilty gear and KOF

[SUGATA]

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the only people who see this as a fighting game are people who aren't good at actual fighting games


this is a sports simulation game first and foremost. If I want to play a good fighting game I'll stick to guilty gear and KOF

Did you find this logic by yourself lol?)
It seems you only know 2D fightings with several gauges and projectiles - I.e. the most Arcadish fightings!
You need to learn more about fighting games before posting like this.


About 2nd part - do you know the main difference between arcade fighting and fight sim like UFC in GAMEPLAY? We are not talking here about presentation.

I can tell you - sim moves has ANALOG frame data, not permanent, which is based on many factors.

And AGAIN - when I am talking about the Balance in the game I mean GAMEPLAY mechanics balance!

[FCB x Finlay]

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I am not talking about balance between fighters - this can not be b/c all fighters has different ratings = and this IS your realism.

I am talking about the balance in gameplay features and mechanics , there must to be a balance based on risk/reward as it is irl. More risky = more reward.

So, patching/balancing the gameplay elements NOT conflicts with ratings and realism.

No. Patching gameplay affect realism, having unrealistic mechanics affects realism for example, i think theres a language barrier here so we arent avle to commicate effectively.

Real life has its own "balance" and i think that should be forefront over game balance.

[empenaparatara]

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Did you find this logic by yourself lol?)
It seems you only know 2D fightings with several gauges and projectiles - I.e. the most Arcadish fightings!
You need to learn more about fighting games before posting like this.


About 2nd part - do you know the main difference between arcade fighting and fight sim like UFC in GAMEPLAY? We are not talking here about presentation.

I can tell you - sim moves has ANALOG frame data, not permanent, which is based on many factors.

And AGAIN - when I am talking about the Balance in the game I mean GAMEPLAY mechanics balance!

3d fighters are terrible except tekken which is equally arcadey. Virtua Fighter has had historically low player rates for a reason--its boring AND unrealistic.



either way, this is an MMA game. not a fighting game. There is a massive difference. This game should NEVER be about mechanics like buffering inputs or focusing too hard on frame data.

[scyth223]

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3d fighters are terrible except tekken which is equally arcadey. Virtua Fighter has had historically low player rates for a reason--its boring AND unrealistic.



either way, this is an MMA game. not a fighting game. There is a massive difference. This game should NEVER be about mechanics like buffering inputs or focusing too hard on frame data.

Idk I love fighting games. Tekken 7, Injustice 2, and the last Mortal Kombat were great. Maybe you're just terrible at them?



While Virtua Fighter may have historically low player rates, Mortal Kombat usually does very well in sales.