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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #31
    Re: I cant wait for next patch

    Originally posted by Find_the_Door
    No it was definitely because when EA UFC 2 released it genuinely felt as if wow we're making progress (and it was impossible to miss) and then this game came out rushed to the market so fast that we not only have a completely different stand-up from launch but we also have a ground game that's completely stale and boring that's largely a carryover.

    Had they taken two more years or a year & 1/2 to further develop the ground game then cool. At this point with how unstable this game is right now I'd rather that they took the time.
    EA UFC 1 to EA UFC 2 - 21 mos (June 2014- March 2016)

    EA UFC 2 to EA UFC 3 - 23 mos (March 2016-February 2018)

    Rushed to market?

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    • neyney00
      Banned
      • Apr 2016
      • 264

      #32
      Re: I cant wait for next patch

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      EA UFC 1 to EA UFC 2 - 21 mos (June 2014- March 2016)

      EA UFC 2 to EA UFC 3 - 23 mos (March 2016-February 2018)

      Rushed to market?
      Like you read my mind. I think this boils down to a grappler feeling left out in the cold (me included). I feel his pain on that front. I didn’t play much ranked in ufc 2 but that was more because I had more fun with matchups on quick match and friends. I was able to go 125-5 on ranked with grappling as my primary and that’s not to say I was great. It was more a result of the more open matchmaking and people unwillingness to learn the ins and outs of the ground.

      That being said it’s so easy to avoid the ground now and people don’t really have to worry about it. Hopefully the next patch restores some balance. It’s mma and I want to punish people who don’t know the ground game as well as I do at a ranked level.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #33
        Re: I cant wait for next patch

        Originally posted by neyney00
        Like you read my mind. I think this boils down to a grappler feeling left out in the cold (me included). I feel his pain on that front. I didn’t play much ranked in ufc 2 but that was more because I had more fun with matchups on quick match and friends. I was able to go 125-5 on ranked with grappling as my primary and that’s not to say I was great. It was more a result of the more open matchmaking and people unwillingness to learn the ins and outs of the ground.

        That being said it’s so easy to avoid the ground now and people don’t really have to worry about it. Hopefully the next patch restores some balance. It’s mma and I want to punish people who don’t know the ground game as well as I do at a ranked level.
        I can completely understand that. My take is they installed a completely new striking system. There were going to bugs. There were going to be exploits. Given that it was the main feature, I expected that the focus was going to be on that system when it came to the first few patches.

        The good news is GPD has stated that the focus is going to be on grappling next patch so there is some good stuff coming.

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        • Find_the_Door
          Nogueira connoisseur
          • Jan 2012
          • 4051

          #34
          Re: I cant wait for next patch

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          I can completely understand that. My take is they installed a completely new striking system. There were going to bugs. There were going to be exploits. Given that it was the main feature, I expected that the focus was going to be on that system when it came to the first few patches.

          The good news is GPD has stated that the focus is going to be on grappling next patch so there is some good stuff coming.
          My point is I preferred the global improvement approach of the previous dev cycle as opposed to leaving something more or less the same and focusing solely on one aspect more or less.
          Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #35
            Re: I cant wait for next patch

            Originally posted by Find_the_Door
            My point is I preferred the global improvement approach of the previous dev cycle as opposed to leaving something more or less the same and focusing solely on one aspect more or less.
            There was never a "global improvement approach" though. The primary focus of UFC 2 was the new grappling system. I'd argue that 70-80% of the dev time in UFC 2 was used towards the grappling system. Now more time has likely been used towards the striking system in UFC 3 but its not a significant amount more. Even the first few patches of UFC 2 were grappling focused (with the exception of the strike intercept feature).

            Any way changes/improvements are coming to grappling. At the most, you have 10 more days before you guys get what you want.

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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #36
              Re: I cant wait for next patch

              Originally posted by Find_the_Door
              My point is I preferred the global improvement approach of the previous dev cycle as opposed to leaving something more or less the same and focusing solely on one aspect more or less.
              I think EA UFC 4 will have a grappling focus if we go on past trends. Things like transition based subs (TBS) are in high demand.

              EA UFC 1 was probably the global improvement approach as you suggest, maybe slight striking focus with all the cage strikes etc.

              EA UFC 2 was grappling focused, EA UFC 3 was striking focused.

              If this is the case then maybe EA UFC 5 (if there is one) could become focused on MMA as a whole.

              We would have both striking and grapppling's foundation set by then and the focus can become integrating striking and grappling to become one seamless game.

              Right it feels like there are 2 (3 if you include subs as you should) different games within EA UFC 3.

              Seamless integration is the key word here.

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              There was never a "global improvement approach" though. The primary focus of UFC 2 was the new grappling system. I'd argue that 70-80% of the dev time in UFC 2 was used towards the grappling system. Now more time has likely been used towards the striking system in UFC 3 but its not a significant amount more. Even the first few patches of UFC 2 were grappling focused (with the exception of the strike intercept feature).

              Any way changes/improvements are coming to grappling. At the most, you have 10 more days before you guys get what you want.
              Does that mean the patch is coming next Tuesday or Thursday. It could be this week, but next week feels more likely.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #37
                Re: I cant wait for next patch

                Originally posted by johnmangala
                I think EA UFC 4 will have a grappling focus if we go on past trends. Things like transition based subs (TBS) are in high demand.

                EA UFC 1 was probably the global improvement approach as you suggest, maybe slight striking focus with all the cage strikes etc.

                EA UFC 2 was grappling focused, EA UFC 3 was striking focused.

                If this is the case then maybe EA UFC 5 (if there is one) could become focused on MMA as a whole.

                We would have both striking and grapppling's foundation set by then and the focus can become integrating striking and grappling to become one seamless game.

                Right it feels like there are 2 (3 if you include subs as you should) different games within EA UFC 3.

                Seamless integration is the key word here.



                Does that mean the patch is coming next Tuesday or Thursday. It could be this week, but next week feels more likely.

                It means its coming in the next 10 days. You know im not gonna confirm the date.

                I think UFC 4 will be more of a mix.

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                • johnmangala
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4525

                  #38
                  Re: I cant wait for next patch

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  It means its coming in the next 10 days. You know im not gonna confirm the date.

                  I think UFC 4 will be more of a mix.
                  Fair enough, next week feels most likely. Spoilers would be coming in soon if the patch releases this week.



                  As for UFC 4, as long as transition based subs/TDs make it in- I wouldn't mind it focusing on MMA as a whole.

                  In fact, in that case, I would prefer it.

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                  • TheGentlemanGhost
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1321

                    #39
                    Re: I cant wait for next patch

                    I REALLY hope you can punish overaggressive strikers with take downs better in the next patch. That would definitely help with balance.

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                    • WarMMA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4612

                      #40
                      Re: I cant wait for next patch

                      Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
                      I REALLY hope you can punish overaggressive strikers with take downs better in the next patch. That would definitely help with balance.

                      Sent from my SM-J700P using Operation Sports mobile app
                      Yh i'm hoping something like this is in place too. It's currently ridiculous. Dudes can be in mid high kick when you shoot and they'll still sprawl.

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                      • GameplayDevUFC
                        Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2830

                        #41
                        Re: I cant wait for next patch

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        There was never a "global improvement approach" though. The primary focus of UFC 2 was the new grappling system. I'd argue that 70-80% of the dev time in UFC 2 was used towards the grappling system. Now more time has likely been used towards the striking system in UFC 3 but its not a significant amount more. Even the first few patches of UFC 2 were grappling focused (with the exception of the strike intercept feature).

                        Any way changes/improvements are coming to grappling. At the most, you have 10 more days before you guys get what you want.
                        Other than switching to hi/lo block from weak/strong I really can't remember what changed at all in the standup between UFC 1 and 2. I'm sure there was something, but nothing big stands out at all.

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                        • melo627
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 393

                          #42
                          Re: I cant wait for next patch

                          Hey @gpd any ragdoll news?

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                          • Barto96
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 21

                            #43
                            Re: I cant wait for next patch

                            I wonder what new fighters will be in this patch :P What you guys want to see?
                            In my opinion the most important are:

                            - Curtis Blaydes

                            - David Branch

                            - Tyson Pedro or Marcin Tybura, Zabit.


                            There should be a new models:

                            - Jeremy Stephens .. come on

                            - Robert Whittaker .. he looks terrible

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                            • MeowingForVengeance
                              Pro
                              • May 2016
                              • 576

                              #44
                              Re: I cant wait for next patch

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Any way changes/improvements are coming to grappling. At the most, you have 10 more days before you guys get what you want.

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                              • Phillyboi207
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 3159

                                #45
                                Re: I cant wait for next patch

                                Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                                Other than switching to hi/lo block from weak/strong I really can't remember what changed at all in the standup between UFC 1 and 2. I'm sure there was something, but nothing big stands out at all.
                                Didnt y’all remove the automatic forward lunges from strikes?

                                I remember in UFC 1 people could chase you down just by striking because the game would close distance for them.

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