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  • SUGATA
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1375

    #1

    EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

    BUFFERING - you are inputting your ANY action (Strike, Lunge, Sway, Grappling move) DURING your state when you are not in Neutral state, i.e. you can not immediately perform this move (for ex, when you are in stun, during your prev move animation, during holded Block), then this your input is being memorized by the system and then AUTO launching immediately just as your fighter turns out in a Neutral state.

    BUFFERING WINDOW (BW) - the duration during which your inputs are memorized by the system. Optimal BW duration i think is 10 frames (1/6 secons). After BW ends all your memorized inputs cleared.

    NEUTRAL STATE - the state of your fighter when any your input immediately launches this move animation/performing.

    BUFFERING USAGE:
    - as soon as your fighter returns to neutral state this inputted move starts AUTOMATICALLY, but IF Buffering window is still not gone/ended. It requires TIMING.

    BUFFERING PROS:
    1) It delete Input delays in your actions

    2) It makes your actions more fluid and organic

    3) It solves online lags and delays

    4) It allows to Counter much more faster and effectively especially against spammers and hard combo when aiming to string openings.

    5) It allows to math your actions using Frame data numbers.

    BUFFER CANCEL:
    what if buffered action during move you want to cancel - click R2 - it will cancel a buffer or end started strike/move into Feint.




    > HOW TO IMPLEMENT BUFFERING in EA UFC 3:

    1) While HOLDING BLOCK (High or Low) you can buffering ANY move!
    But dont forget about 10 frames window - you need make input not more than 10 frames before you are going to release Block.

    Example: Opponent is spamming combo > you holding Block > you know his 3rd strike will be slow powerful strike (=opening) > you Blocked his 1st and 2nd strike (it gives your Frame advantage FA, which size is depending on this blocked strike Frame data FD) > 1o frames before his 2nd strike HIT phase start your buffering while still holding Block (for ex Hook for large FA or Sway fr little FA) > just he landed his 2nd strike (you blocked) you release your Block >... your punish counter will AUTOMATICALLY launches IMMEDIATELY.

    What we have now in EA UFC 3:
    - NO one action can not be buffered during Block
    - only one BUGGED exception - sometimes by doing Major sway during Block you can get MINOR sways and ONLY in 2 directions - left and forward.


    2) While PERFORMING ANY MOVE you can buffering ANY move!
    But dont forget about 10 frames window - you need make input not more than 10 frames before you are going to release Block.

    Example: Opponent usually answers by exchange on your attack > You perform Strike > 10 frames before your strikes animation ends start buffering your nest action (for ex Sway) > as your strikes ended your Sways will launches automatically w/o any delay > during your sway you inputting another strike > etc.

    What we have now in EA UFC 3:
    - only some actions can be buffered during some actions: you can buffer Sway into strike (BUT it is buggy - only Minor sway), you can buffer Sway only in Standard punches (not in Kicks for ex), you can buffer Hard combos.
    - we can NOT buffer lunges in our actions for ex Strikes or Sways (which decrease Lunge's effectiveness dramatically!)
    - we can NOT buffer sways into Lunges
    - etc.

    WE NEED to able to buffer ANY move into ANY move!! 100% w/o any restrictions or bugs!
    The only exception - Soft combos, which requires right timing to link strikes.
    Last edited by SUGATA; 05-22-2018, 02:17 PM.
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  • rabbitfistssaipailo
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    • Nov 2017
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    #2
    Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

    I'm lost ...let me read again ...

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    • rabbitfistssaipailo
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      • Nov 2017
      • 1625

      #3
      Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

      Sorry my apologies but what exactly is buffering ?

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      • SUGATA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1375

        #4
        Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

        Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
        Sorry my apologies but what exactly is buffering ?

        Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app
        BUFFERING - you are inputting your ANY action (Strike, Lunge, Sway, Grappling move) DURING your state when you are not in Neutral state, i.e. you can not immediately perform this move (for ex, when you are in stun, during your prev move animation, during holded Block), then this your input is being memorized by the system and then AUTO launching immediately just as your fighter turns out in a Neutral state.


        Do you understand?
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        • rabbitfistssaipailo
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          • Nov 2017
          • 1625

          #5
          Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

          So if I get you right ...if I'm holding block I cue up a strike or any such thing and wait till I want to release block and then boom ? Hope I got it ?

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          • Solid_Altair
            EA Game Changer
            • Apr 2016
            • 2043

            #6
            Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

            Interesting. I thought buffering was available for most actions, off of a block stun. I'm curious to see if GPD confirms this.

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            • Zeta Reticulan1
              Banned
              • Sep 2017
              • 471

              #7
              Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

              Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
              So if I get you right ...if I'm holding block I cue up a strike or any such thing and wait till I want to release block and then boom ? Hope I got it ?

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              You just showed what a ridiculous supposition this is by thinking it through a bit more than the OP. This is why GPD will likely not respond.

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              • rabbitfistssaipailo
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                • Nov 2017
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                #8
                Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                I give up

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                • Solid_Altair
                  EA Game Changer
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 2043

                  #9
                  Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                  I think he means buffering an input while in block stun, not while holding block.

                  If he is right, it's good news, in a way, because it would mean the punishment inputs could be made easier. I feel like I have to be quite precise, right now, but I don't know if the buffering happens or not. For now, I'm assuming the buffering happens and that wen I miss it's just because my timing was too bad.

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                  • SUGATA
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                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1375

                    #10
                    Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                    Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                    So if I get you right ...if I'm holding block I cue up a strike or any such thing and wait till I want to release block and then boom ? Hope I got it ?

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                    yes. but dont forget about 10 frames window during which your inputs are in buffer after then buffer clears.
                    so you can not hold forever and still needs timing.

                    But such buffering allows to solve delays in countering off Block against spammers/aggressive players and solve some online delay problems.
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                    • SUGATA
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                      • Apr 2016
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                      #11
                      Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                      I think he means buffering an input while in block stun, not while holding block.

                      If he is right, it's good news, in a way, because it would mean the punishment inputs could be made easier. I feel like I have to be quite precise, right now, but I don't know if the buffering happens or not. For now, I'm assuming the buffering happens and that wen I miss it's just because my timing was too bad.
                      I said what i said.

                      Again:

                      While holding block.

                      NOT only during Block stun (this is a state when you blocked opponent's strike but still not in Neutral sate) - but during ALL types of stun also (Hit stun, Block stun, stagger), during your strikes/lunges/sways/taunts animations, etc.

                      DURING ALL actions you must to be able to buffer your follow up action.

                      This principle was tested and approved in many years (twenty + years) in one of the most deep and technical fighting games - Virtua Fighter for example. Full buffering was from 1st UFC UD across all its parts too.

                      There is no one reason to not use it in fight sim like EA UFC 3.

                      Buffering any in any and while holding Block - will bring only pros w/o any cons in EA UFC 3, it will solve many problems of the game (difficulty to quicklly counter off Block against aggressive spammers for example when you get some frame advantage b/c of blocking his strike but still late).
                      Last edited by SUGATA; 05-22-2018, 06:10 PM.
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                      • Solid_Altair
                        EA Game Changer
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2043

                        #12
                        Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                        Originally posted by SUGATA
                        I said what i said.

                        Again:

                        While holding block.

                        NOT only during Block stun (this is a state when you blocked opponent's strike but still not in Neutral sate) - but during ALL types of stun also (Hit stun, Block stun, stagger), during your strikes/lunges/sways/taunts animations, etc.

                        DURING ALL actions you must to be able to buffer your follow up action.

                        This principle was tested and approved in many years (twenty + years) in one of the most deep and technical fighting games - Virtua Fighter for example. Full buffering was from 1st UFC UD across all its parts too.

                        There is no one reason to not use it in fight sim like EA UFC 3.

                        Buffering any in any and while holding Block - will bring only pros w/o any cons in EA UFC 3, it will solve many problems of the game (difficulty to quicklly counter off Block against aggressive spammers for example when you get some frame advantage b/c of blocking his strike but still late).
                        I don't get what you mean by buffering while holding block. Wouldn't that just result in an elbow or knee?
                        Last edited by Solid_Altair; 05-22-2018, 07:40 PM.

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                        • SUGATA
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                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1375

                          #13
                          Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                          I don't get what you mean by buffering while holding block. Wouldn't that just result in an elbow or knee?
                          Why is must results in elbow or knee?

                          You are holding block , buffering input for ex Sway or Lunge or Strike during last 10 frames before releasing Block , release Block... your buffered command launches immediately automatically by itself.
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                          • rabbitfistssaipailo
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                            • Nov 2017
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                            #14
                            Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                            But wait wouldn't you have to let to go of the block button to input those strikes or is it like a block once , tap again to release ...to be honest Virtua fighter analogies won't go down well with some of the community . But cool idea nonetheless .

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                            • SUGATA
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                              • Apr 2016
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                              #15
                              Re: EA UFC 3 needs BUFFERING ANY in ANY and during BLOCK - solve spam and delays!

                              Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                              But wait wouldn't you have to let to go of the block button to input those strikes or is it like a block once , tap again to release ...to be honest Virtua fighter analogies won't go down well with some of the community . But cool idea nonetheless .

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                              i dont understood yr question now
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