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  • RomeroXVII
    MVP
    • May 2018
    • 1663

    #16
    Re: The New Cheese.

    Originally posted by Solid_Altair
    As MartialMind said, there is a bug with head movement, which is being looked at.

    However, from what I tested, there doesn't seem to be an extra drain if you "slip one attack twice".
    When I look back, I think I know why. After I missed the first strike I would cancel the second. Can you test if there's an extra drain despite feinting the second strikes? (And on the topic of feinting, when will feints not be considered a missed strike? Personally being that those are cancelled strikes, I don't think they should be counted in the strike total. It was the same thing in UFC 2)
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    • Counter Punch
      Pro
      • Apr 2018
      • 949

      #17
      Re: The New Cheese.

      Would you be willing to post the video?

      I read in another thread that leaning was intended to reduce damage taken from body strikes.

      Is it possible that they were just really good at head movement? It’d be interesting to hear more about Rommel’s lab session. It’s not really clear to me exactly why you guys are convinced that this is a glitch, but I think I’m just not interpreting it correctly.

      I know how skilled you are at the game Romero, so if you say it’s a glitch I’m inclined to believe you.
      ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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      • Counter Punch
        Pro
        • Apr 2018
        • 949

        #18
        Re: The New Cheese.

        Originally posted by Solid_Altair
        there actually is an intended mechanic, making consecutive slips more efficient than intended.
        Lol what??
        ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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        • rabbitfistssaipailo
          MVP
          • Nov 2017
          • 1625

          #19
          Re: The New Cheese.

          Originally posted by RomeroXVII
          Honestly, same. Seems to pop out a lot when I want to do a 1-2, lead body hook. It drives me nuts.
          It's cool when you are doing it ...but it sucks on the receiving end . You can do nothing but block it seems .

          I know enough has been said on forward moving animations and the reality of striking of your lead foot . But it's really annoying . Especially after it's done after a blocked 1-2 . At best you slip one hook but the second will track you .

          I know it's non related to the topic . My apologies but it's just insane how a fighter can literally take no breaks in stride and just glide across the octagon as you back out of the exchange .

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          • Evil97
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1099

            #20
            Re: The New Cheese.

            I said there was a standing perfect swoop an hour after the patch dropped. I guess people thought I was joking.

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            • bmlimo
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1123

              #21
              Re: The New Cheese.

              Originally posted by Evil97
              I said there was a standing perfect swoop an hour after the patch dropped. I guess people thought I was joking.

              Sent from my SM-N900V using Operation Sports mobile app
              There’s a glitch in it but people are doing the right move... they are doing headmovement just like fight night, the complete movement...
              I know there’s a glitch but the chainned sways itself are a good weapon against pressure combo spammers...

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              • Solid_Altair
                EA Game Changer
                • Apr 2016
                • 2043

                #22
                Re: The New Cheese.

                Originally posted by RomeroXVII
                When I look back, I think I know why. After I missed the first strike I would cancel the second. Can you test if there's an extra drain despite feinting the second strikes? (And on the topic of feinting, when will feints not be considered a missed strike? Personally being that those are cancelled strikes, I don't think they should be counted in the strike total. It was the same thing in UFC 2)
                That sounds like a promising hypothesis. I'll try to test it.

                As to feints counting as strikes, I think everybody agrees. It's just a matter of devs having time to fix it. I'd like to see them draining less stamina, too.

                Originally posted by Evil97
                I said there was a standing perfect swoop an hour after the patch dropped. I guess people thought I was joking.

                Sent from my SM-N900V using Operation Sports mobile app
                I don't know if there is a "perfect swoop". I tested one specific scenario that still had a few counters to it (that could track the head).

                But in a general seense, there are shenanigans in place.

                Originally posted by bmlimo
                There’s a glitch in it but people are doing the right move... they are doing headmovement just like fight night, the complete movement...
                I know there’s a glitch but the chainned sways itself are a good weapon against pressure combo spammers...
                Even if the glitchy stuff is fixed, I think chaining slips will remain a good tool against pressure.

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                • rabbitfistssaipailo
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 1625

                  #23
                  Re: The New Cheese.

                  Originally posted by bmlimo
                  There’s a glitch in it but people are doing the right move... they are doing headmovement just like fight night, the complete movement...
                  I know there’s a glitch but the chainned sways itself are a good weapon against pressure combo spammers...
                  Until they step back and kick you in the head ....

                  Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app

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                  • RomeroXVII
                    MVP
                    • May 2018
                    • 1663

                    #24
                    Re: The New Cheese.

                    Originally posted by Counter Punch
                    Would you be willing to post the video?

                    I read in another thread that leaning was intended to reduce damage taken from body strikes.

                    Is it possible that they were just really good at head movement? It’d be interesting to hear more about Rommel’s lab session. It’s not really clear to me exactly why you guys are convinced that this is a glitch, but I think I’m just not interpreting it correctly.

                    I know how skilled you are at the game Romero, so if you say it’s a glitch I’m inclined to believe you.
                    I can send it to you via email. I don't really know how to work the forums and I don't want to expose the player (despite my disdain for him using the technique). Send me a message on PSN with your email and I got you. You'll notice what I'm talking about a minute or two into the video, and further in when I'm targeting the body.

                    If it was simply chaining slips, that's no problem. What you'll see, is much different.
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                    PSN: RomeroXVII
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                    • bmlimo
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1123

                      #25
                      Re: The New Cheese.

                      Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                      Until they step back and kick you in the head ....

                      Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app
                      Nah u can stop anytime and block... right now is the best strategy against 1-2 spammers... better than headkick to counter is go to the body...

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                      • rabbitfistssaipailo
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1625

                        #26
                        Re: The New Cheese.

                        I'm sick of this **** ...it's either my pad isn't working or there's something wrong here ...

                        This is just some bull**** . I'm dominating a fight and I get knocked with a head kick as I'm holding my block and getting out of the pocket .

                        This is just crazy .

                        Just how are you supposed to get a take down in this game .

                        Dodge a head kick ...stuffed .

                        Dodge a hook ...stuffed .

                        Throw a combo go for a take down stuffed .

                        It's like all you have to do in this game is just L1 triangle and box and triangle and lunge while doing it ...that and just 1-2 .

                        Like I said when you use head movement they will just sneak a head kick behind the jab .

                        Man I'm out ...good night .





                        Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app

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                        • Irishthug
                          Banned
                          • May 2018
                          • 14

                          #27
                          Re: The New Cheese.

                          Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                          I'm sick of this **** ...it's either my pad isn't working or there's something wrong here ...

                          This is just some bull**** . I'm dominating a fight and I get knocked with a head kick as I'm holding my block and getting out of the pocket .

                          This is just crazy .

                          Just how are you supposed to get a take down in this game .

                          Dodge a head kick ...stuffed .

                          Dodge a hook ...stuffed .

                          Throw a combo go for a take down stuffed .

                          It's like all you have to do in this game is just L1 triangle and box and triangle and lunge while doing it ...that and just 1-2 .

                          Like I said when you use head movement they will just sneak a head kick behind the jab .

                          Man I'm out ...good night .





                          Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Operation Sports mobile app
                          This guy thinking he was just going to jump online and succeed is kind of funny. Reality is a crazy thing.

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                          • Find_the_Door
                            Nogueira connoisseur
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4051

                            #28
                            Re: The New Cheese.

                            Originally posted by MartialMind
                            ZombieRommel labbed it and discovered that there's a bug... an "option select" (As they call it) when you twirl the stick in a certain angle and this allows players to avoid all damage plus drain stamina.

                            I believe this is getting addressed.
                            Part of the reason I haven't played for the better part of two weeks.
                            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #29
                              Re: The New Cheese.

                              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                              As MartialMind said, there is a bug with head movement, which is being looked at.

                              However, from what I tested, there doesn't seem to be an extra drain if you "slip one attack twice".
                              Problem is it even slips your body kicks sometimes which is terrible. I've avoided playing this game for the better part of two weeks until it's fixed.
                              Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                              • Find_the_Door
                                Nogueira connoisseur
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4051

                                #30
                                Re: The New Cheese.

                                Originally posted by ZombieRommel
                                Yeah I fought a guy doing this and I knew for sure it wasn't legit. I labbed in practice and confirmed it's broken. I informed devs, so they are aware now of the issue and how to reproduce it.

                                It's a shame that people find stuff like this and just abuse the hell out of it instead of immediately reporting it, but I guess that's humanity.

                                Body hooks, overhands, leg kicks are temporary workarounds for now. Aside from the occasional overhand (because it doesn't fall prey to the tracking exploit), don't try attacking their head at all. The risk/reward is tremendously in their favor.
                                Yeah - you can't even body kick at all against it as the majority of the time it misses. Not to mention any leg kicks of any sort just leave you exposed for a hook flurry out of the sway cheese.

                                These players literally say "I'm just reacting to what you're doing" as if they think they're Neo or something. It's pathetic
                                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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