A reasonable explanation

[TheFightingFins]

Re: A reasonable explanation

I have both the PS4 Pro and XB1X, and any differences between the 2 versions seem minimal to me if there is a difference,but I'm not a top ranked player so maybe they notice things that I don't ?

[ryangil23]

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The game is a joke on PS4. I play wired on PS4 and through wifi on Xbox and Xbox is still ten times smoother and quicker. I can deny transitions so much easier, my strikes feel so much faster, everything just feels a bit more crisp.

I'd go as far as saying that this game on PS4 is borderline unplayable for a high level in ranked.

[Full_of_Rage]

Re: A reasonable explanation

Straight answer is, aside from the problem with fakes, nothing concrete has been confirmed.

I've played a lot of games on PS4 at work and haven't experienced anything personally.

I've asked our testers to take another look and pointed them to this thread as a description of the problem.

Edit: I've played a lot of PS4 Pro. Haven't played a lot of regular PS4 myself. But our testers are testing all platforms and I have to take their word on whether there are confirmed issues or not. We'll see what they come up with.

Honestly, this issue has been reported in all of the forums.

I really think it is important to address.

[Boiler569]

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I'm playing on Regular PS4 ..... so I guess I'm playing a real crap version

Maybe I'll upgrade to PS4 Pro soon, but will never go Xbox!!! lol

(although I did buy then return and Xbox for the 10 hour EA Access Trial lmao)

[Pax_Vision]

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I'm playing on Regular PS4 ..... so I guess I'm playing a real crap version

Maybe I'll upgrade to PS4 Pro soon, but will never go Xbox!!! lol

(although I did buy then return and Xbox for the 10 hour EA Access Trial lmao)

The things I do for FN man... lol

[Boiler569]

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The things I do for FN man... lol

lmao

I have been very tempted to get back into FNC but have held off....but when I retire from UFC 3 in the next few months I def. look forward to getting back to some FN!

[moozoog]

Re: A reasonable explanation

Really? I have the game for both consoles and it's crap on PS4 but on Xbox is basically unplayable.

[Full_of_Rage]

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Really? I have the game for both consoles and it's crap on PS4 but on Xbox is basically unplayable.

Finally played on PS4 pro and I was a monster. There is an issue.

Not much testing needed to figure out the difference.

[ZombieRommel]

Re: A reasonable explanation

The fakes were busted but I don't see any other differences, nor do I feel a marked lack of response on PS4 as long as the latency between two players isn't excessive.

I play on a PS4 Pro @60FPS, 1080p, on a gaming monitor with 1ms latency, using the PS4 Pro's option to play directly over the USB wire (instead of Bluetooth) for even faster response time. I have Boost Mode on and Supersampling enabled, but the frame rate remains a solid 60FPS at all times.

I'm a stickler for "game feel", so if the standup felt off, I would notice and call it out, but it feels fine to me. Grappling is not my forte in these games, so I admit it might be a bit more cumbersome on PS4.

But for the most part the game feels fine on the Pro.

I haven't played on the standard PS4 because 30FPS makes my eyes bleed.

[Phillyboi207]

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The fakes were busted but I don't see any other differences, nor do I feel a marked lack of response on PS4 as long as the latency between two players isn't excessive.

I play on a PS4 Pro @60FPS, 1080p, on a gaming monitor with 1ms latency, using the PS4 Pro's option to play directly over the USB wire (instead of Bluetooth) for even faster response time. I have Boost Mode on and Supersampling enabled, but the frame rate remains a solid 60FPS at all times.

I'm a stickler for "game feel", so if the standup felt off, I would notice and call it out, but it feels fine to me. Grappling is not my forte in these games, so I admit it might be a bit more cumbersome on PS4.

But for the most part the game feels fine on the Pro.

I haven't played on the standard PS4 because 30FPS makes my eyes bleed.

I used to think you were exaggerating about the difference but while watching some esfl fights I saw a few streams with 60 FPS. The game looks SO much better.

I really hope they decided 60 FPS as the standard moving forward. The difference was amazing.

[ZombieRommel]

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I used to think you were exaggerating about the difference but while watching some esfl fights I saw a few streams with 60 FPS. The game looks SO much better.

I really hope they decided 60 FPS as the standard moving forward. The difference was amazing.

I would be very surprised if they went backward and stripped out 60FPS. The feature has been well-received and helps to market the high end variants of the consoles.

I'm glad you are able to see the difference it makes. I've been keyed into frame rate for a long time. I used to play Quake 2 online on my dad's crappy Gateway 2000 computer and I'd get destroyed playing at like 30-45 FPS. I got a graphics card for Christmas the next year (Voodoo 2) and the difference in fluidity was astounding. I could actually see things easier and react faster.

Frame rate makes a huge difference in games where you have direct control of the camera (all shooters) but higher frame rate will always result in a better game "feel" regardless of genre.

What's interesting to note (to me at least) is that NES, SNES, and Genesis games all ran at 60hz, or 59.9. Go back and play Sonic the Hedgehog and it's amazing how fluid the action is.

Check out 30FPS vs 60FPS Sonic (make sure to enable 60FPS in the YouTube quality settings, and make sure to play these both at the same time so you can compare in real-time):


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Then when 3D graphics became a thing, "looks" took precedence over "feel". So we entered this era with the original Playstation and Xbox where developers were fixated on created vast 3D worlds, even if they ran like garbage and were plagued by pop-in.

So my point here is that if you've been gaming for a long time, then you got accustomed to 60FPS from the old 2D games. Then devs went backward with frame rate to accommodate 3D. I think for gamers who entered into the hobby during the 3D era, 30FPS was less offensive, because they hadn't become accustomed to 60FPS from the generation prior.

In any event, the difference in feel and playability for me in UFC3 is night and day. Can't ever go back to 30 now.

On my PC, I play games at 120-165 FPS depending upon what my CPU/GPU can render. So even 60 feels a little slow to me these days, but 60 is still nowhere near as appalling as 30.

[tekara83]

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[QUOTE=ZombieRommel;

I play on a PS4 Pro @60FPS, 1080p, on a gaming monitor with 1ms latency, using the PS4 Pro's option to play directly over the USB wire (instead of Bluetooth) for even faster response time. I have Boost Mode on and Supersampling enabled, but the frame rate remains a solid 60FPS at all times.

I'm a stickler for "game feel", so if the standup felt off, I would notice and call it out, but it feels fine /QUOTE]

Where in the world did u find a gaming monitor at 1ms latency?? I'm pretty sure they don't exist. You may mean 1ms response time which has nothing to do with lag.

I experienced alot of input delay on my ps4 pro with it set on 1080p at 60fps. Also I will just press buttons for just rear hook, lead hook and 6 hooks come out at once. I will do a roundhouse kick and 2 always seem to come out..

I played the 10 hour trials on my Xbox one X and it's is night and day compared to ps4 pro. If I enjoyed the game I would definitely buy it for Xbox one x

[ZombieRommel]

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Where in the world did u find a gaming monitor at 1ms latency?? I'm pretty sure they don't exist. You may mean 1ms response time which has nothing to do with lag.

I experienced alot of input delay on my ps4 pro with it set on 1080p at 60fps. Also I will just press buttons for just rear hook, lead hook and 6 hooks come out at once. I will do a roundhouse kick and 2 always seem to come out..

I played the 10 hour trials on my Xbox one X and it's is night and day compared to ps4 pro. If I enjoyed the game I would definitely buy it for Xbox one x

Yeah, my bad, I meant response time.

This is the monitor I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=operasport-20

The lower response time means less "ghosting" on the display. You're seeing the most current image without any artifacts from previous frames.

As for the part of your response I bolded, I've never had that happen. I don't see how it's possible unless you are mashing buttons wildly or your controller is broken. Sometimes, due to severe online latency, inputs will not register properly (they'll register as null and nothing will happen), but the game will never play out an action that the player DIDN'T input. GPD confirmed this.

If you believe otherwise, I invite you to record your hands on the controller and the screen at the same time. Now, you could argue that the input queue is probably too long. If I mash out two head kick inputs by accidents, there are times where they both come out back to back, but I still recognize that I was at fault for mashing too hard.