EA UFC 4 Be the Boss (Universe mode)

[aholbert32]

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Given the options the first one but...

If I'm being honest I hate the process of creating fighters. The time it takes to make them look and fight unique while still realistic is a pain to me.

So that one is tough for me but I'd side with more slots.

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I have no real inside knowledge on this but if I was a betting man I'd bet that if there is a next game, the CAF process will be improved alot. The devs recognized the complaints about it since UFC 1.

[aholbert32]

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My ideal system would be like most sports titles in a franchise mode. Fighters get older and deteriorate and you either cut them or they retire, while new fighters are generated and take their spots.

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Your approach is the polar opposite of mine. For people like you, a randomizer is perfect. Especially if you are the type of guy who runs/sims years and years of cards. For someone like me who maybe plays 4-5 cards a month, a randomizer is less necessary because no one really gets older in my universe.

[TheRizzzle]

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Your approach is the polar opposite of mine. For people like you, a randomizer is perfect. Especially if you are the type of guy who runs/sims years and years of cards. For someone like me who maybe plays 4-5 cards a month, a randomizer is less necessary because no one really gets older in my universe.

Yeah I'll give you an example of how my universe is a little wonky right now.

Somehow, someway Eddie Alvarez has lost 7 in a row in my universe. In the real UFC and in a franchise mode simulator, he'd probably retire or get cut at this point BUT I'd have a young gun coming up to replace him and some of those losses would have been me matching him up in a way to promote a younger fighter (think Rashad Evans against Anthony Smith).

Since there isn't a system in place to fix this with the lack of CAF slots and no progression/regression, at some point I've established all my "prospects" like the Northcutts and Zabit's of the world, with no one else coming up behind them.

So I plateau and have to start over. That's why I think if we have only a few intricacies to the first Universe Mode, a basic "push out/replenishment" of fighters has to be essential or the repeatability of the mode take a significant hit.

I'd say it should be prioritized over rankings. I'm gonna rank them in my mind and matchmaker accordingly, especially if the infancy of the mode doesn't involve money and I'm not beholden to trying to sell PPV's or give into fighter demands about pay or who fights who.

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[aholbert32]

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Yeah I'll give you an example of how my universe is a little wonky right now.

Somehow, someway Eddie Alvarez has lost 7 in a row in my universe. In the real UFC and in a franchise mode simulator, he'd probably retire or get cut at this point BUT I'd have a young gun coming up to replace him and some of those losses would have been me matching him up in a way to promote a younger fighter (think Rashad Evans against Anthony Smith).

Since there isn't a system in place to fix this with the lack of CAF slots and no progression/regression, at some point I've established all my "prospects" like the Northcutts and Zabit's of the world, with no one else coming up behind them.

So I plateau and have to start over. That's why I think if we have only a few intricacies to the first Universe Mode, a basic "push out/replenishment" of fighters has to be essential or the repeatability of the mode take a significant hit.

I'd say it should be prioritized over rankings. I'm gonna rank them in my mind and matchmaker accordingly, especially if the infancy of the mode doesn't involve money and I'm not beholden to trying to sell PPV's or give into fighter demands about pay or who fights who.

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I ran into a similar situation with Clay Guida. I think he lost 5 straight. Now I just shelved him for a year plus. I can do that because I have profiles for each weight class and that gives me 22 fighters to replace him. If he's around in the next version of the game, I make it like he got some wins outside the UFC

Rankings should be easier to implement because we already have that system in career mode. I'm hoping the same would go for replenishing fighters since thats in career mode too.

[MacGowan]

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the CAF process will be improved alot. The devs recognized the complaints about it since UFC 1.

Sad to see the clothes go, but the tattoo system introduced in UFC2 has been on fire, and really made this game for me (I'm a geek, I know)

Speaking of. I pray to the devs that they'll allow us to copy our CAFs from UFC3 to UFC4. I just remade a few CAFs I lost in the great glitch crash of August.
One has 100 layers of tattoos
another two has 35 each.

I really, really don't ever wanna have to redo them again.

[TheRizzzle]

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I ran into a similar situation with Clay Guida. I think he lost 5 straight. Now I just shelved him for a year plus. I can do that because I have profiles for each weight class and that gives me 22 fighters to replace him. If he's around in the next version of the game, I make it like he got some wins outside the UFC[emoji2]

Rankings should be easier to implement because we already have that system in career mode. I'm hoping the same would go for replenishing fighters since thats in career mode too.

Do you make the fighters based on real life fighters or do you make them up completely?

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[aholbert32]

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Do you make the fighters based on real life fighters or do you make them up completely?

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Real life fighters. Some are based on UFC 2 fighters who were winning in my universe. I still have UFC 2 so I've taken their stats (with some tweaks) move sets and perks and moved them to UFC 3. Some are brand new fighters like David Teymur who arent in the game.

[TheRizzzle]

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I just thought of something and it really bums me out.

If we ever get a good in-depth franchise mode, we probably won't ever get drug suspensions. I feel like it's such an integral part of the the MMA game now, but there is no way the UFC is letting that into a game with its name on it.

Same way the NCAA football games used to have academics issues and you'd have to suspend the players or the NCAA would. They took that out quick.

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[TheRizzzle]

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Also, I think we should call it Be The Promoter or Promoter Mode or Be The Boss, basically anything other than Universe Mode from now on.

I think Universe Mode has a stigma and some people might be getting confused about what we're asking for. All the the theatrics would be nice eventually, but at it's core we aren't asking for a professional wrestling mode. Its just that WWE's "Universe Mode" is a close comparison to what we want in terms of world building.

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[OPSPunk]

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Yeah I'll give you an example of how my universe is a little wonky right now.

Somehow, someway Eddie Alvarez has lost 7 in a row in my universe. In the real UFC and in a franchise mode simulator, he'd probably retire or get cut at this point BUT I'd have a young gun coming up to replace him and some of those losses would have been me matching him up in a way to promote a younger fighter (think Rashad Evans against Anthony Smith).

Since there isn't a system in place to fix this with the lack of CAF slots and no progression/regression, at some point I've established all my "prospects" like the Northcutts and Zabit's of the world, with no one else coming up behind them.

So I plateau and have to start over. That's why I think if we have only a few intricacies to the first Universe Mode, a basic "push out/replenishment" of fighters has to be essential or the repeatability of the mode take a significant hit.

I'd say it should be prioritized over rankings. I'm gonna rank them in my mind and matchmaker accordingly, especially if the infancy of the mode doesn't involve money and I'm not beholden to trying to sell PPV's or give into fighter demands about pay or who fights who.

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This is a great point. Randomized CAF as prospects with variable stats is the way to go. However, if you play long enough you probably will have a total roster turn over.

In a perfect system you should be able to edit everything about the randomized CAF before they make there debut. In that way you could make it based off of real guys if you chose, but if you don't want to put that work in you don't have to.

Another cool piece, which is wishful thinking would be the ability to have a community share option - share CAF and share rosters. I felt I just wasted 2 minutes because that is never coming. Although it would be AWESOME!!!!

[Galgorian]

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I WANT A UNIVERSE MODE. I REGULARLY SEND THE DEVS COMMENTS ABOUT UNIVERSE MODE. I REGULARLY SEND THE DEVS LINKS TO THREADS ABOUT UNIVERSE MODE. IVE BEEN PUSHING FOR IT FOR ALMOST 4 YRS NOW.

With that said, I think we should be somewhat conservative in what we expect to get. I think the best comparison would be WWE Smackdown v. Raw 2011. That was the first WWE game with a Universe mode. Here is what it had:

- A calendar
- Rankings
- Sim Engine
- News section
- A card/matches section

The good news is that UFC 3 already has a few of these things. The sim engine is currently in the Tournaments mode and I'm hoping that can be moved over. The card section is in Custom Events. A calendar shouldn't be that hard to create and you should be able to book fights months out. Rankings will require a bit of programming and a new UI but there are rankings in career mode so I'm assuming those assets can also be used. A news section with a fight history database is necessary imo.

Anything else would just be icing on the cake for me.

This. All of this. Also, anything else should be customizable. Cut scenes, injuries, fight negotiations, goals, etc. might be cool, but I'd still like the ability to turn them off and just book fight cards if I'm not enjoying any of those features.

[OPSPunk]

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I just want to keep this thread going. I know these ideas are all fantasy land but why not put it out there

Online League - An owner creates a league and is responsible for match making. Ranking is maintained. Champs have to defend their title within a certain period of time or they are stripped of the title. Choice of using CAF or roster fighters

My Universe - Rankings saved. You can link any Fight Now or Event to this. You also have the option of putting CAFs in the rankings. You also can edit all rosters and save

Community Sharing - Sliders, CAFS, rosters can be uploaded and downloaded.

Be the Boss Mode - Pretty much what we have been talking about in this thread with the goal to make enough money