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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Seconded!
His footwork, switch, top game, TDD, Sub O/D are all low, and could be buffed off his most recent performances.
Specifically Diakiase and Burns, he showed tasty improvements in these areas in those two fights.
Specifically, TDD, Top Game, Clinch grapple, Sub O vs Diakiase.
A fight where he controls Diakiases back for just under half the 2nd round and counters a cage TD into a beautiful elbow in guillotine for the win in the third. Shows definite improvements to his in game stats.
Footwork, headmovement, chin, power, accuracy, vs Burns.
Just watch the fight, some of those counters were siiick and involved some skilled footwork. Specifically the.. first KD I think.
Gil Lunges in wit tha hook, Hooker quickly hops out the way and returns a straight on the money dropping burns.
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Switch stance is criminally low. Vs hioki he literally fought southpaw the entire fight. His power could use a bump. He’s a completely different animal at lightweight. I feel like his current stats are based on his featherweight losses to Jason knight and Yair Rodriguez. Even though they gave him a boost recently.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
He has that lvl 5 body knee which totally wrecks dudes, but yeah he could definitely use a slight buff in some other areas. So glad they finally put him at LW tho. Been using him a ton.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
He has Barbosa next. I expect if he wins that fight he will get a pretty big buff.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Oh hey, awesome, let’s just wait 3 months to see Barbosa circle faster and faster away from Hooker as he gets his ears boxed in.
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
The fact he's being matched with Barboza and a lot of folk are considering it close should gives an impression of how damn underrated Hooker currently is.
If you looked at their stats in game, you'd assume Edson was getting a gimme almost.
Win or lose he needs a buff I think.
He's currently rated as a low tier FTW (who has recieved a few buffs) when he should be a mid tier LW currently.
Stuff like his Body/Leg health, toughness, heart, Grapple stam and endurance haven't been reassessed for LW if I'm not mistaken, they're all still indictative FTW. Only his chin and strike stam have been adjusted in tuners.
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
He looked good in his last four fights....and I could nitpick everyone of them if I wanted to. I could say that he beat two shot fighters (Miller and Pearson) and two overrated mid tier fighters (Burns and Diakese). He was impressive in those wins though. I remember just a few months ago people were bragging about Burns and how he was underrated he was because he KO'd Moret and Saggo and now I dont here **** about him anymore. Still we gave him a small buff because it was deserved.
Hooker has a pretty vocal fan club here and because of that we reconsidered after the Burns fight and we buffed EIGHT of his categories. Thats more categories in one update that I believe we've ever given a person. He was criminally underrated at release and we made changes within reason. \
You say he isnt a mid level LW? Lets look at the stats. There are 45 LWs in the game. Hooker is:
15th in strike speed.
11th in Power.
10th in accuracy.
17th in Head Movement
Those are just the ones that I have the time to look up right now. That looks like an upper mid-tier LW to me when it comes to striking.
Look if he beats Barbosa or looks good in a loss, I'm sure he will get another buff in areas he deserves. I'm sorry that it doesnt comply with Smokezero's timeline on when fighters get updated but I would prefer that he beat someone in the top 10 before we start rating him like a top 10 fighter.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
I understand you guys updated many of his stats. But like you said he was criminally underrated at release, so why is it surprising a lot of his stats were touched up? The switch stance of 80 is completely wrong. He can fight in both stances and has KO’s in both stances. In some fights he fights southpaw literally the whole time. This must have been skipped over.
You can argue for the other stats but he deserves a VERY high switch stance. Hopefully he gets updated one more time. It will be insane if he is a staple at lightweight IRL and lower tier in the game. Also I would like to add high level fighters sometimes can’t finish shot fighters. Sometimes lower ranked fighters put up a tough fight. The result should prove a lot even if it’s not a top ten fighter. Poirier barely beat Miller and hooker smashed him easily.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
As someone who argued for a burns buff, he got it, so there's not much to add there, that's probably why we've been silent on him, his last performance wasn't great, either.
As for Hooker, I don't have any issue with those stats, they're the (fairly) accurate ones, they're not where he is low tier.
Like I said, my issue is his grappling and health stats (I know strike stam and chin were buffed, and that's awesome, I'm glad)
And my issue there is they're mostly his untouched low tier featherweight stats.
You say Pearson is shot, and I agree, but he has the same chin rating as Hooker.
And Hooker has shown a fairly improved ability to take shots at LW.
Diakiases overrated, again, agree, his stats in areas Hooker beat him on the ground are higher than Hookers.
As I said, a lot of his stats just seem like they need to be reassessed due to the move to LW.
He's like a new figher compared to the FTW performances. Doesn't mean top 10 stats, just more accurate health/stam for his LW performances.
But yeah, hopefully he puts on a show vs Barboza.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Lets be clear here. Burns is a savage and is insultingly under rated. Easily 1 of the highest level jits games in UFC and has been knocking guys lights out. He never stops competing, whether hes taking MMA fights, or BJJ super fights the dude is always out there getting at it and getting even better. The Hooker fight its known that Burns suffered a super bad weight cut and even Hooker himself came out and said that probably contributed to Burns performance.
I personaly feel like when you look at Burns backround and experience, his stats are criminally under rated.
People stopped bringing him up because we know how this works and theres no point. If Hooker is any evidence, you apparently need to destroy 5 guys in a row before EA is willing to give you decent stats.Last edited by Haz_____; 09-06-2018, 10:03 AM.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
My only thing is the inconsistency of it.
That doesnt apply to Zhabit and Paulo Costo. And Moicano has 2 top 10 wins (and was beating Ortega before the guillotine )but his ratings are still slightly above average.
If someone is wrecking low/ mid tier talent I dont see why they shouldnt be rated in the upper mid tier range. I think the way you rated Costo and Zhabit were perfect. But the conservative approach for someone like Hooker/ Moicano seems a bit misplaced since they’ve been winning decisively.Comment
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
....and Hooker is in the upper mid tier. I just gave you guys the stats.
It also depends on what you do in the fight. People are asking for Hooker grappling buffs off of one fight (Diakese). Thats it. When we have the Knight, Rodriguez and Blanco fights to show that his grappling isnt even topmid tier imo. So the Diakese fight alone is supposed to erase everything we know about his grappling? In a way, his quick finishes have prevented us from being able to justify a grappling buff.
Its also not inconsistent. With Costa and Zabit, we had a clean slate. We judged them on all of their current fights AND had a better understanding of how ratings affect the game. They werent just numbers. We knew how those numbers would work.
With Hooker, he was 4-3 at the time we did the ratings and hadnt done much to show that he was going to go on the run he did. The ratings were still lower than I wanted but at the time, you could argue that he wasnt even a mid tier guy. His biggest win was over Pearson. There were no consistent ratings updates until really around April and in his next fight WE BUFFED THE HELL OUT OF HIM. 8 categories.
So he is a high mid tier striker in the game. You want a grapple stamina buff? Tell me why. Is it just because of Diakese? Ok, well I'm not a big fan of buffing or nerfing someone off of one fight unless we've really gotten it wrong and right now I dont see how that is really wrong based on his fights.Last edited by aholbert32; 09-06-2018, 12:43 PM.Comment
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