There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

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  • Papadoc60
    Rookie
    • Jun 2017
    • 393

    #16
    Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

    Originally posted by Newaza Expert
    I just throw elbows from side mount, kesa, and crucifix; it's worked for me against even the best players but you gotta rely on intuition, reaction time, and guesswork to maintain control until you drain their stamina. Once you get them in crucifix with really low stamina they're done. You can also try posturing up in guard but that's less effective.

    Don't bother posturing up in full mount because that's arm trap city; you'll just get swept or at best lose your stamina.

    Edit: And back mount flat is deadly if you can get it. Just posture up and throw bombs.
    What is kesa? Half guard postured is deadly. I get tons of finishes from side saddle+back side as well, I should make a GNP video honestly. I may do that.

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    • rabbitfistssaipailo
      MVP
      • Nov 2017
      • 1625

      #17
      Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

      Please do

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      • Haz_____
        Banned
        • Aug 2018
        • 299

        #18
        Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

        Originally posted by Papadoc60
        What is kesa? Half guard postured is deadly. I get tons of finishes from side saddle+back side as well, I should make a GNP video honestly. I may do that.
        Kesa Gatame is Scarfhold/Side Saddle.



        Please make that video tho. Would be very helpful. I cant manage to get any damage off on the ground against good players. They just block a strike or 2 and transition out. Every time. Doesn't matter the position. I just don't know what to do.

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        • Phillyboi207
          Banned
          • Apr 2012
          • 3159

          #19
          Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

          Originally posted by Haz_____
          Kesa Gatame is Scarfhold/Side Saddle.



          Please make that video tho. Would be very helpful. I cant manage to get any damage off on the ground against good players. They just block a strike or 2 and transition out. Every time. Doesn't matter the position. I just don't know what to do.
          Throw one strike and get ready to deny.

          Pretty much everyone has a pattern they use to try to escape positions.

          If your strike lands then double up but try to mix some head/body shots.

          You can do some heavy damage in posted half guard and stacked guard.
          Last edited by Phillyboi207; 10-04-2018, 12:45 PM.

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          • Haz_____
            Banned
            • Aug 2018
            • 299

            #20
            Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

            Originally posted by Phillyboi207
            Throw one strike and get ready to deny.

            Pretty much everyone has a pattern they use to try to escape positions.

            Of your try lands then double up but try to mix some head/body shots.

            You can do some heavy damage in posted half guard and stacked guard.

            Postured half seems to be my go to position to get some damage off. Maybe work the body a bit and drain some stamina. Good players easily block 2 strikes and sweep me tho. That sweep seems super easy to pull off.

            A video would be super helpful. Maybe a gaming moniter and **** would make a difference also. I often find myself nailing denials but they somehow sneak through anyway. Maybe my timing just sucks.

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            • Phillyboi207
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 3159

              #21
              Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

              Originally posted by Haz_____
              Postured half seems to be my go to position to get some damage off. Maybe work the body a bit and drain some stamina. Good players easily block 2 strikes and sweep me tho. That sweep seems super easy to pull off.

              A video would be super helpful. Maybe a gaming moniter and **** would make a difference also. I often find myself nailing denials but they somehow sneak through anyway. Maybe my timing just sucks.
              You should try to avoid letting them block 2 straight strikes. It’ll really boost their transitions from the GA.

              Throw one then wait a second and let the GA reset if the first one is blocked. Once their block gets weaker / they get tired you can start pounding away and inturrupting their transitions.

              I’d love to see a Papadoc video as well tho. Im nowhere near him or TheRelaxedGuy

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              • Papadoc60
                Rookie
                • Jun 2017
                • 393

                #22
                Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

                Originally posted by Haz_____
                Postured half seems to be my go to position to get some damage off. Maybe work the body a bit and drain some stamina. Good players easily block 2 strikes and sweep me tho. That sweep seems super easy to pull off.

                A video would be super helpful. Maybe a gaming moniter and **** would make a difference also. I often find myself nailing denials but they somehow sneak through anyway. Maybe my timing just sucks.
                You're getting swept probably because you're letting them block too many strikes too soon. You should let them block at most one and then wait 2-3 seconds for them to transition and be ready to deny, because the grapple advantage resets from the blocks after a certain amount of time passes ( this was added in like patch 6 or something ). You just need to limit them to 1 blocked strike per 2-3 seconds basically and the denials will be very easy. I'll try and make that video today.

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                • Newaza Expert
                  Rookie
                  • May 2018
                  • 41

                  #23
                  Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

                  Originally posted by Papadoc60
                  What is kesa? Half guard postured is deadly. I get tons of finishes from side saddle+back side as well, I should make a GNP video honestly. I may do that.
                  Kesa gatame or basically what the game calls side saddle; it's great for ground n' pound as well as setting up the arm triangle. Half guard postured, from my experience as a high rated player, is very easy to defend and it's super easy to pull your opponent back down into standard half guard unless they're pre-denying it.

                  In back side, I usually just pre-deny the roll into guard after throwning each strike while I usually like letting them stand because I have a suplex or a rear naked choke waiting for them once they reach their feet; I find that throwing a knee first is effective if they're looking to deny it. I think I only ever had one person kimura me when I had their back so it's super rare but I love that submission because it's the same way Sakuraba beat Renzo Gracie.

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                  • Newaza Expert
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 41

                    #24
                    Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

                    Originally posted by Haz_____
                    Kesa Gatame is Scarfhold/Side Saddle.



                    Please make that video tho. Would be very helpful. I cant manage to get any damage off on the ground against good players. They just block a strike or 2 and transition out. Every time. Doesn't matter the position. I just don't know what to do.
                    You gotta pre-deny and this requires guesswork and intuition. Say you have them in kesa, and you think they're gonna try to escape into side mount; you should deny the side mount transition immediately after you throw each strike.

                    They block the strike, block the strike, then get denied trying to move into side Control because you saw it coming and timed it. Then, when their stamina gets low, you have an arm triangle waiting so you can strangle them unconscious.

                    You might get it wrong; they might move into back side mount instead but that's usually okay as long as you pre-deny the roll into guard. They think they're easily gonna roll into guard but nope, they get pulled right back and lose energy in the process. Then they usually stand and you suplex them or take their back and choke them.

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                    • burningxspirit
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 224

                      #25
                      Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

                      Originally posted by Papadoc60
                      You're getting swept probably because you're letting them block too many strikes too soon. You should let them block at most one and then wait 2-3 seconds for them to transition and be ready to deny, because the grapple advantage resets from the blocks after a certain amount of time passes ( this was added in like patch 6 or something ). You just need to limit them to 1 blocked strike per 2-3 seconds basically and the denials will be very easy. I'll try and make that video today.
                      ha that's crazy I've been doing that just as a strategy but I didn't know it was exact science, with GA resetting and all..nice

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                      • rabbitfistssaipailo
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1625

                        #26
                        Re: There's literally no point in throwing head punches in your opponent''s guard

                        Waiting on that video sir

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