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  • SUGATA
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    • Apr 2016
    • 1375

    #16
    Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

    I am NOT training this exploit, i am not a cheater. And i am NOT going to lab this more and training this bs (even for proving this effectiveness to somebody), b/c this makes game worse. But someone other can abuse it in the future and as you see in the video sometimes you will NOT even see a side steps animation (fighter stand in place and strikes are missing).

    So this my 2nd try in Practice w recording tool with this bug.

    1st part of the video - fast hard combo Straight-Jab- Hook-Hook:
    - i just spam side short lunge (aka side step later)
    - no any timing or skill from me
    - result: his fisrt 3 strikes are evaded w/o retreat (this spam evade ROUNDED strikes if side step direction is AWAY from the strike so 3rd Hook was evaded) > so he is exhausted and his 4th strike which tracks me is weak > my follow up counter will be critical for him b/c my Stamina does NOT suffer from Side step spam (this is WRONG Stamina management as ia said before to GPD) + Vulnerability on SHORT lunge has NOT large dmg bonus when meets incoming strike (in contrast to adv lunge).

    2nd part of the video - Jab-Jab-Straight- Hook-Hook with DIFFERENT timing:
    - the same results - most of strikes are evaded (b/c usually starting from weak clock-clock striking by Jabs -straights)
    - his landed strike is weak
    - then i trying to block his strike and counter
    I need to train NEW Block counters to punish him w/o eating his last weak hook at all.

    Again, i am not trained this and block counters at all.

    RESUME:
    1. Side step spam is OP w/o Block
    2. Pressing Block during side step spam is OP too
    3. Stamina management is totally wrong.
    4. This issues makes gameplay unbalanced and unrealistic and looks bad.

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    > HOW TO FIX IT:
    1) Redone the entire Stamina management in the game - there are many issues with it but it can be done by tuning with community help if devs ask

    2) Make a stamina penalty for spamming lunges (as we have for spamming the same strike type). starting from 3rd short lunge no matter of its direction.
    (!) I am pretty sure that mixing up Side steps up/down will have the same evasive result BUT prevents opponent from adapting to you for counter hook! Just dont want to lab more this ****.

    3) Change Blocking in short lunges - make it the same principle as for adv lunge

    4) Evolve Block counter mechanics - more variants.
    Last edited by SUGATA; 10-10-2018, 05:03 PM.
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    • bmlimo
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1123

      #17
      Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

      Originally posted by SUGATA
      I am NOT training this exploit, i am not a cheater. And i am NOT going to lab this more and training this bs (even for proving this effectiveness to somebody), b/c this makes game worse. But someone other can abuse it in the future and as you see in the video sometimes you will NOT even see a side steps animation (fighter stand in place and strikes are missing).

      So this my 2nd try in Practice w recording tool with this bug.

      1st part of the video - fast hard combo Straight-Jab- Hook-Hook:
      - i just spam side short lunge (aka side step later)
      - no any timing or skill from me
      - result: his fisrt 3 strikes are evaded w/o retreat (this spam evade ROUNDED strikes if side step direction is AWAY from the strike so 3rd Hook was evaded) > so he is exhausted and his 4th strike which tracks me is weak > my follow up counter will be critical for him b/c my Stamina does NOT suffer from Side step spam (this is WRONG Stamina management as ia said before to GPD) + Vulnerability on SHORT lunge has NOT large dmg bonus when meets incoming strike (in contrast to adv lunge).

      2nd part of the video - Jab-Jab-Straight- Hook-Hook with DIFFERENT timing:
      - the same results - most of strikes are evaded (b/c usually starting from weak clock-clock striking by Jabs -straights)
      - his landed strike is weak
      - then i trying to block his strike and counter
      I need to train NEW Block counters to punish him w/o eating his last weak hook at all.

      Again, i am not trained this and block counters at all.

      RESUME:
      1. Side step spam is OP w/o Block
      2. Pressing Block during side step spam is OP too
      3. Stamina management is totally wrong.
      4. This issues makes gameplay unbalanced and unrealistic and looks bad.

      <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/w2mSnjMuYrY" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen="" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>
      U are using the wrong combos man... i use jab -hook-hook against those spammers or just hook-hook-hook-hook its almost a guaranted rock
      If u use jab straight first of course it will not have the same effect cuz your stamina will be burned when u go for the hook

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      • SUGATA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1375

        #18
        Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

        Originally posted by bmlimo
        U are using the wrong combos man... i use jab -hook-hook against those spammers or just hook-hook-hook-hook its almost a guaranted rock
        is does not matter, of course, this is not an ultimate universal exploit against ALL fighting styles and combos. but against the most i am sure.
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        • bmlimo
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          • Apr 2016
          • 1123

          #19
          Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

          Originally posted by SUGATA
          is does not matter, of course, this is not an ultimate universal exploit against ALL fighting styles and combos. but against the most i am sure.
          To me its just a defense for jab+ straight...

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          • Phillyboi207
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 3159

            #20
            Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

            I’m still not seeing the issue

            If you’re good enough to read your opponents strikes and have the skill to dodge appropriately what’s the problem?

            Hell if you’re good enough to do that AND pull off the block counters then you’re just good at the game

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            • SUGATA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1375

              #21
              Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

              Originally posted by Phillyboi207
              I’m still not seeing the issue

              If you’re good enough to read your opponents strikes and have the skill to dodge appropriately what’s the problem?

              Hell if you’re good enough to do that AND pull off the block counters then you’re just good at the game
              you said "IF you’re good enough"... but IF you are not, this helps especially w/o risking to be baited by feints or mistime your side step, especially in laggy/latency match conditions
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              • bmlimo
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                • Apr 2016
                • 1123

                #22
                Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                Originally posted by SUGATA
                you said "IF you’re good enough"... but IF you are not, this helps especially w/o risking to be baited by feints or mistime your side step, especially in laggy/latency match conditions
                Go to ranked and try this agains someone, no, better: try this against legendary cpu

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                • RomeroXVII
                  MVP
                  • May 2018
                  • 1663

                  #23
                  Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                  Originally posted by bmlimo
                  U are using the wrong combos man... i use jab -hook-hook against those spammers or just hook-hook-hook-hook its almost a guaranted rock
                  If u use jab straight first of course it will not have the same effect cuz your stamina will be burned when u go for the hook
                  Right. Not only that , but I want to see this done against a LIVE opponent.

                  I'm a willing dance partner.
                  Last edited by RomeroXVII; 10-10-2018, 10:31 PM.
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                  • bmlimo
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                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1123

                    #24
                    Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                    Hey sugata im still waiting for your feedback against legendary AI using this strategy

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                    • SUGATA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1375

                      #25
                      Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                      Originally posted by bmlimo
                      Hey sugata im still waiting for your feedback against legendary AI using this strategy
                      check my answer above.
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                      • RetractedMonkey
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 1624

                        #26
                        Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                        I'm washed up compared to the level I played at competitively, but I can still easily make top 35 ranked and under within a day. I spent a good portion of time testing this out.

                        This strategy does not work in any effective capacity. And honestly, shows me your complete lack of actual gameplay efficacy. For all the intensely detailed write-ups and theory, I truly don't think you have any effective strategies that translate to actual wins in the virtual octagon.

                        It takes some nerve to call this cheating and haptic feedback all good. This doesn't even work! I used this strategy on guys that only throw 1-2s in quick match and even they started to chucks hooks when they realized I could dodge straights. Sometimes, I'd still get hit by a straight punch because a tempo change.

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                        • RetractedMonkey
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 1624

                          #27
                          Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                          Forgot to mention, you absolutely do get hit stun when lunging into a horizontal strike AND you lose a ton of stamina. Something you would know if you labbed this past the practice mode.

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                          • RomeroXVII
                            MVP
                            • May 2018
                            • 1663

                            #28
                            Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                            Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                            Forgot to mention, you absolutely do get hit stun when lunging into a horizontal strike AND you lose a ton of stamina. Something you would know if you labbed this past the practice mode.
                            Exactly why I've been telling him to send me a fight request, but to no avail. That's proof enough that this isn't broken at all.
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                            • bmlimo
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                              • Apr 2016
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                              #29
                              Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                              Originally posted by RomeroXVII
                              Exactly why I've been telling him to send me a fight request, but to no avail. That's proof enough that this isn't broken at all.
                              He could also just play against cpu... i bet he would be ktfo in the first... CPU dont accept cheese at all

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                              • SUGATA
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1375

                                #30
                                Re: EA UFC 3 BUG: I am unbreakable with Side Lunges

                                Guys. i am happy that as you said, you realized that this issue can not be abused constantly during the fight with Live opponent.

                                But, anyway, we have a technique which does NOT require timing and mind to evade some strikes and some series - and THIS is WRONG regardless of its online (un)effectiveness, b/c this is 1. unrealistic 2. looks weird 3. disturb the gameplay concept.

                                These are enough for this issue to be fixed in upcoming patches.
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