Re: UFC 229 Stat update
Ferguson vs Conor would be snapdown city
One, if you're effectively chain wrestling, you're not going to expend as much energy than if you were out of position trying to fight your way back into position.
Wrestlers wrestle through torn LCLs, MCLs, ACLs, a lot of combat athletes tend to be hurt in some shape or form and fight through it. Yianni Diakomihalis torn his ACL and MCL in the quarter finals of the NCAAs and wrestled through it to become an NCAA Champ.
José Aldo outgrappled Chang Sung Jung with a broken foot, a man who has an extensive submission background and holds the only Twister in UFC History (Correct me if I'm wrong). That's impressive.
My case being, these athletes are special and should definitely be commended for when they persevere through adversity.
It means something because there is a huge difference between in fight shape and just being in 'shape'.
On Holloway's statement on this, I remember he was relatively green and he wasn't exactly the best guy off the back. At the time he was a good striker with some tricks. But he looked like a child in comparison to the size of Conor in that fight. There was no grappling threat from Holloway to add on to that as well.
IMO I really doubt that Conor tore his ACL before the Mendes fight if anything, he sprained it, I saw the movie and he did not look the same way like he did in the Holloway fight. After Diakomihalis won NCAAs he was out for a crazy amount of time. We saw what happened with Ferguson when he tore his ACL and he was out for quite some time understandably so. He was out after the Holloway fight for 9 months because it happened there.
How conveniently after the Mendes fight, Kavanagh reiterated that the knee is now fully healed and that no surgery was needed. He ain't look like he was hurt in the Mendes fight. He definitely did in the Holloway fight for a split moment when he passed into Side Control.
Conor is a BJJ Brown Belt, but when somebody is rocked and already concussed from a left from hell, it'd be pretty easy to control them too. And that's just not for Conor, that's how I view it for anybody that shows 'amazing' control even though it's pretty obvious that the dude is on his way out. Ferguson is one of the few dudes out there that I've seen get rocked bad, and still manage to use the Jiu Jitsu fundamentals to stay in the fight. Aldo managed to survive a hellacious beating as long as he could from Holloway after getting dropped and even defended against a RNC while rocked, that's impressive but the finish was imminent. Eddie got served the hands of the Irish Pimp, how he remained in there was due to being too tough for his own good.
TL;DR I won't go as far as Flacco and say he's a B +, because I do acknowledge the toughness from McGregor (when he's fresh anyways), BJJ Knowledge and his bravado, along with his precise striking, but MMA Pundits had been saying this about Conor for a long time: You cannot over commit against McGregor and you cannot be hesitant against him, and if he was put against an IN SHAPE Wrestler (something Alvarez, despite having a wrestling background, does not really embrace as much as he loves to brawl)
I think, Kevin Lee, Ferguson, RDA (not dying from a bad weight cut), would give him an L as well.
Wrestlers wrestle through torn LCLs, MCLs, ACLs, a lot of combat athletes tend to be hurt in some shape or form and fight through it. Yianni Diakomihalis torn his ACL and MCL in the quarter finals of the NCAAs and wrestled through it to become an NCAA Champ.
José Aldo outgrappled Chang Sung Jung with a broken foot, a man who has an extensive submission background and holds the only Twister in UFC History (Correct me if I'm wrong). That's impressive.
My case being, these athletes are special and should definitely be commended for when they persevere through adversity.
It means something because there is a huge difference between in fight shape and just being in 'shape'.
On Holloway's statement on this, I remember he was relatively green and he wasn't exactly the best guy off the back. At the time he was a good striker with some tricks. But he looked like a child in comparison to the size of Conor in that fight. There was no grappling threat from Holloway to add on to that as well.
IMO I really doubt that Conor tore his ACL before the Mendes fight if anything, he sprained it, I saw the movie and he did not look the same way like he did in the Holloway fight. After Diakomihalis won NCAAs he was out for a crazy amount of time. We saw what happened with Ferguson when he tore his ACL and he was out for quite some time understandably so. He was out after the Holloway fight for 9 months because it happened there.
How conveniently after the Mendes fight, Kavanagh reiterated that the knee is now fully healed and that no surgery was needed. He ain't look like he was hurt in the Mendes fight. He definitely did in the Holloway fight for a split moment when he passed into Side Control.
Conor is a BJJ Brown Belt, but when somebody is rocked and already concussed from a left from hell, it'd be pretty easy to control them too. And that's just not for Conor, that's how I view it for anybody that shows 'amazing' control even though it's pretty obvious that the dude is on his way out. Ferguson is one of the few dudes out there that I've seen get rocked bad, and still manage to use the Jiu Jitsu fundamentals to stay in the fight. Aldo managed to survive a hellacious beating as long as he could from Holloway after getting dropped and even defended against a RNC while rocked, that's impressive but the finish was imminent. Eddie got served the hands of the Irish Pimp, how he remained in there was due to being too tough for his own good.
TL;DR I won't go as far as Flacco and say he's a B +, because I do acknowledge the toughness from McGregor (when he's fresh anyways), BJJ Knowledge and his bravado, along with his precise striking, but MMA Pundits had been saying this about Conor for a long time: You cannot over commit against McGregor and you cannot be hesitant against him, and if he was put against an IN SHAPE Wrestler (something Alvarez, despite having a wrestling background, does not really embrace as much as he loves to brawl)
I think, Kevin Lee, Ferguson, RDA (not dying from a bad weight cut), would give him an L as well.
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