EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Changes

[Phillyboi207]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

I wonder if we’ll be able to get the same kind of chain wresting on normal TDs next patch

Maybe only for guys with level 3 or higher double/single legs

Allow us to go from a regular double to the standing single animation(the one you get after a single leg from), into the clinch, or finish the single.

It would be a nice punishment for late sprawl denials

[aholbert32]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

Aholbert, please for the love of god, can you reevaluate John Lineker’s Striking Stamina (88) and Endurance (88) and submit a buff for these particular stats. The guy should be top 5 here, not bottom of the barrel. He got untouched after the Kelleher fight despite landing over 100 strikes and getting the 3rd round KO. Lineker has one of the highest Strikes Landed per minute stats in the division. Again, please take a closer look him. If the community believes Lineker deserves a better than 88 Strike stamina and Endurance please respond or like. Thanks.


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I'll take a look when he fights again. With that said, I'll never know if the entire "community" or even most of them think he deserves a buff given that this forum only represents a small amount of the game's actual community. Also an 88 isnt "bottom of the barrel".

The team will reconsider him after his next fight.

[aholbert32]

Re: New patch 1.12

The chin should be a 92 or 93. And his ridiculous leg (98) and body health (96) stats need to be dropped.

I dont want to focus on Conor much because (as I'll say for the 100th time) there are multiple reasons why some of his stats are higher than others. Some have to do with the UFC. Some have to do with him being the most popular fighter in the game. The team did the best that we could under those restraints. Now with that said, you may think certain stats were too high at release and thats fine. When it comes to nerfing those stats, we need an fight related reason. For example, we dropped his accuracy based on the percentage of strikes he landed in the Khabib fight. We dropped his sub D because of how easily he was subbed against Khabib.

Now putting aside whether you feel some of his stats were too high before, what about the Khabib fight showed you his leg and body strength should drop?

Before I turn in each of my suggestions, I search the forums and talk to certain members of the forums about what stats they think should be adjusted for fighters who just fought. If I can justify a buff in a certain area based on a fight, I will buff them. In some cases, we've buffed people based on stats just being flat out wrong (Guida's stamina for example). With that said, a buff to Guida is MUCH EASIER to get approval on than a nerf to the coverboy. Especially if those changes arent supported by what happened in the most recent fight.

On another note, I was actually about to create a post about this (not conor but the subject in general) in order to get an understanding about what real life things you guys think should drive certain ratings.

[aholbert32]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

I wonder if we’ll be able to get the same kind of chain wresting on normal TDs next patch

Maybe only for guys with level 3 or higher double/single legs

Allow us to go from a regular double to the standing single animation(the one you get after a single leg from), into the clinch, or finish the single.

It would be a nice punishment for late sprawl denials

I would lower your gameplay expectations for the next patch. We are likely coming toward the end of the run for UFC 3 and GPD will be out for a while taking care of his family. I'm sure there will be some things added but nothing huge.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: New patch 1.12

I dont want to focus on Conor much because (as I'll say for the 100th time) there are multiple reasons why some of his stats are higher than others. Some have to do with the UFC. Some have to do with him being the most popular fighter in the game. The team did the best that we could under those restraints. Now with that said, you may think certain stats were too high at release and thats fine. When it comes to nerfing those stats, we need an fight related reason. For example, we dropped his accuracy based on the percentage of strikes he landed in the Khabib fight. We dropped his sub D because of how easily he was subbed against Khabib.

Now putting aside whether you feel some of his stats were too high before, what about the Khabib fight showed you his leg and body strength should drop?

Before I turn in each of my suggestions, I search the forums and talk to certain members of the forums about what stats they think should be adjusted for fighters who just fought. If I can justify a buff in a certain area based on a fight, I will buff them. In some cases, we've buffed people based on stats just being flat out wrong (Guida's stamina for example). With that said, a buff to Guida is MUCH EASIER to get approval on than a nerf to the coverboy. Especially if those changes arent supported by what happened in the most recent fight.

On another note, I was actually about to create a post about this (not conor but the subject in general) in order to get an understanding about what real life things you guys think should drive certain ratings.

What warranted Conor having a 98 leg strength and 96 body strength in the first place? Khabib walked through Barboza's leg kicks that would definitely warrant a higher leg strength than Conor's for example.

I get that the UFC overall makes the final decisions. I fully believe that MAYBE you tried to give him more realistic stats, and being that he is the cover boy, you probably weren't able to. Understood, you admit that.

A common thing that I notice: Nobody really complained about Demetrious Johnson. Why? Because he had proven himself to be a well rounded fighter in all aspects of MMA, in the striking, grappling and in endurance. So when people saw his stats, it's not like you could do much complaining about it because it was pretty accurate.

Holloway is another fighter who was rated and distributed with his stats extremely well. His Chin and Health are pretty accurate, and nothing about him makes him necessarily OP. He is very spot on.
Ortega was done well, but definitely needs some more love with his block. 88 to a 91 would be more accurate.
Aldo is spot on.
RDA is pretty spot on. Should have a 90 TD O.
Cruz is done well. Maybe a 99 Switch Stance is needed.
Etc.
Plenty of fighters have been done well and I appreciate that. Other fighters, like LW Dan Hooker, could definitely need some loving in terms of their ratings.


Conor is made out to be this Irish God amongst men on this game, even being an A+ fighter in Welterweight in a division he fought TWICE in, went 1-1 against a LIGHTWEIGHT who dabbled in Welterweight going 2-2.
That within itself is not accurate.
What was done well with Conor his precision, which leads to the power shots that he lands and hey, with the striking I have no issue aside from the accuracy being 99 (which you guys fixed) and his power dropping. He has a good chin, based on what I saw in the Mendes fight and with him getting sent to floor by Khabib, but even then, a 93 would be more than enough. You guys did his grappling well, but you guys were also pretty sneaky adding in a Triangle Choke and Armbar counter from stacked Guard, meanwhile a World Champ in Jiu Jitsu like José Aldo doesn't have both.

You guys also gave Conor a myriad of single leg counters and what not, but Khabib only has the double unders for single legs and double under for the double and judo throw, despite being a MUCH more accomplished grappler than Conor.

Heck, he's even rated to have higher Toughness than Khabib when he basically quit in the end of the third round saying "It"s only Business". He was a broken man in there.

With the last paragraph, I'd definitely love for you to start a thread like that so everybody can give their input on what they believe.

Also, any reason as to why Khabib's regular single leg is a level 1, but his power single leg Takedown is a level 4? Makes no sense, they should both be at a level 4.

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[aholbert32]

Re: New patch 1.12

What warranted Conor having a 98 leg strength and 96 body strength in the first place? Khabib walked through Barboza's leg kicks that would definitely warrant a higher leg strength than Conor's for example.

I get that the UFC overall makes the final decisions. I fully believe that MAYBE you tried to give him more realistic stats, and being that he is the cover boy, you probably weren't able to. Understood, you admit that.

A common thing that I notice: Nobody really complained about Demetrious Johnson. Why? Because he had proven himself to be a well rounded fighter in all aspects of MMA, in the striking, grappling and in endurance. So when people saw his stats, it's not like you could do much complaining about it because it was pretty accurate.

Holloway is another fighter who was rated and distributed with his stats extremely well. His Chin and Health are pretty accurate, and nothing about him makes him necessarily OP. He is very spot on.
Ortega was done well, but definitely needs some more love with his block. 88 to a 91 would be more accurate.
Aldo is spot on.
RDA is pretty spot on. Should have a 90 TD O.
Cruz is done well. Maybe a 99 Switch Stance is needed.
Etc.
Plenty of fighters have been done well and I appreciate that. Other fighters, like LW Dan Hooker, could definitely need some loving in terms of their ratings.


Conor is made out to be this Irish God amongst men on this game, even being an A+ fighter in Welterweight in a division he fought TWICE in, went 1-1 against a LIGHTWEIGHT who dabbled in Welterweight going 2-2.
That within itself is not accurate.
What was done well with Conor his precision, which leads to the power shots that he lands and hey, with the striking I have no issue aside from the accuracy being 99 (which you guys fixed) and his power dropping. He has a good chin, based on what I saw in the Mendes fight and with him getting sent to floor by Khabib, but even then, a 93 would be more than enough. You guys did his grappling well, but you guys were also pretty sneaky adding in a Triangle Choke and Armbar counter from stacked Guard, meanwhile a World Champ in Jiu Jitsu like José Aldo doesn't have both.

You guys also gave Conor a myriad of single leg counters and what not, but Khabib only has the double unders for single legs and double under for the double and judo throw, despite being a MUCH more accomplished grappler than Conor.

Heck, he's even rated to have higher Toughness than Khabib when he basically quit in the end of the third round saying "It"s only Business". He was a broken man in there.

With the last paragraph, I'd definitely love for you to start a thread like that so everybody can give their input on what they believe.

Also, any reason as to why Khabib's regular single leg is a level 1, but his power single leg Takedown is a level 4? Makes no sense, they should both be at a level 4.

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If you get that, why are you asking what warranted Conor's stats? Also, the Khabib/Barbosa fight happened AFTER we finished the initial stats for the game so thats irrelevant unless you are arguing that we should give Khabib a 99 in leg strength.

I'm willing to sit here and discuss EVERY other fighter's stats in the game except Conor. Why? Because its pointless for the reason I stated before. We didnt "MAYBE" try anything. We did and things change. What cracks me up is the short memories that people here have. Remember his stats in UFC 2? Remember grappling god Conor? Given the circumstances, I'll take UFC 3 Conor's stats 10/10 over what was in UFC 2.

Toughness has nothing to do with whether a person quits or gives up or breaks during a fight. Its their ability to recover between rounds after being hurt or rocked.

I dont have input on movesets.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: New patch 1.12

If you get that, why are you asking what warranted Conor's stats? Also, the Khabib/Barbosa fight happened AFTER we finished the initial stats for the game so thats irrelevant unless you are arguing that we should give Khabib a 99 in leg strength.

I'm willing to sit here and discuss EVERY other fighter's stats in the game except Conor. Why? Because its pointless for the reason I stated before. We didnt "MAYBE" try anything. We did and things change. What cracks me up is the short memories that people here have. Remember his stats in UFC 2? Remember grappling god Conor? Given the circumstances, I'll take UFC 3 Conor's stats 10/10 over what was in UFC 2.

Toughness has nothing to do with whether a person quits or gives up or breaks during a fight. Its their ability to recover between rounds after being hurt or rocked.

I dont have input on movesets.

Lmao. Yes, I would argue that Khabib should have a higher leg strength than Conor. 100%. Against the best kicker in the division and he ate those kicks.

I simply asked because at this point, the Aura of Invincibility that Conor seemed to portray to most is pretty much gone now to anybody with common sense, I figure there's no harm to making a fighter more realistic. 🤷🏾*♂️ Plus, WW Conor is a problem and many others agree with me.

And whoaa now buddy, nothing will ever make me forget the disdain I have for UFC 2 McGregor, don't loop me in with those with short memory. Believe me, I take UFC 3 Conor over UFC 2 Conor any day.

Who does the input on movesets?

Anywho, it doesn't hurt to ask, aholbert. It's how we get more educated on how things work for you guys, and helps us (well, most of us) communicate with you guys better.

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[aholbert32]

Re: New patch 1.12

Lmao. Yes, I would argue that Khabib should have a higher leg strength than Conor. 100%. Against the best kicker in the division and he ate those kicks.

I simply asked because at this point, the Aura of Invincibility that Conor seemed to portray to most is pretty much gone now to anybody with common sense, I figure there's no harm to making a fighter more realistic. 🤷🏾*♂️ Plus, WW Conor is a problem and many others agree with me.

And whoaa now buddy, nothing will ever make me forget the disdain I have for UFC 2 McGregor, don't loop me in with those with short memory. Believe me, I take UFC 3 Conor over UFC 2 Conor any day.

Who does the input on movesets?

Anywho, it doesn't hurt to ask, aholbert. It's how we get more educated on how things work for you guys, and helps us (well, most of us) communicate with you guys better.

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The moveset guy doesnt really interact with the forums or the GCs. He does seem to pay attention to some of the suggestions on the forums so maybe he will see yours and make a change.

I actually broke my rule that I've been good at keeping since release. I wont discuss Conor. When I saw those posts claiming that the changes were being delayed because "the team was afraid to nerf Conor", I broke that rule but I'm going to go back to it.

It doesnt hurt to ask but the likelihood that there will be any significant changes to Conor is likely low given that he wont fight again until mid 2019. At that point, I hope that I'll be helping the team do stats for the next game.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: New patch 1.12

The moveset guy doesnt really interact with the forums or the GCs. He does seem to pay attention to some of the suggestions on the forums so maybe he will see yours and make a change.

I actually broke my rule that I've been good at keeping since release. I wont discuss Conor. When I saw those posts claiming that the changes were being delayed because "the team was afraid to nerf Conor", I broke that rule but I'm going to go back to it.

It doesnt hurt to ask but the likelihood that there will be any significant changes to Conor is likely low given that he wont fight again until mid 2019. At that point, I hope that I'll be helping the team do stats for the next game.

I've made plenty of movesets suggestions and 90% of them have gone through so hopefully yes, I hope he sees what I post there soon.

You've done a great job overall with the fighter ratings, so I thank you for that. Now if that Volkov-Oleinik stat glitch could be fixed [emoji23][emoji23]

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[Kingslayer04]

Re: New patch 1.12

I've made plenty of movesets suggestions and 90% of them have gone through so hopefully yes, I hope he sees what I post there soon.

You've done a great job overall with the fighter ratings, so I thank you for that. Now if that Volkov-Oleinik stat glitch could be fixed [emoji23][emoji23]

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What's wrong with their stats?

[RomeroXVII]

Re: New patch 1.12

What's wrong with their stats?

Volkov apparently got Oleiniks stats. Should be fixed soon.

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[Therebelyell626]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

Honestly this Dev team has done the best post release support I have ever seen. Everytime I see these updates i find myself super impressed. Even makes me miss this game.

However I don't play online, and the AI vs human experience just hasn't been good since a month after realease. Until they improve this I am just not interested. Hopefully for UFC 4 they can find a way to balance the game so that competitive and single player fans can have the experience they want.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

Honestly this Dev team has done the best post release support I have ever seen. Everytime I see these updates i find myself super impressed. Even makes me miss this game.

However I don't play online, and the AI vs human experience just hasn't been good since a month after realease. Until they improve this I am just not interested. Hopefully for UFC 4 they can find a way to balance the game so that competitive and single player fans can have the experience they want.

Have you played the AI recently? Skynet has done a good job on them.

[aholbert32]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

Have you played the AI recently? Skynet has done a good job on them.

Yeah, the AI has been great for about 4 mos now.

[The meticulous Esp]

Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Patch 1.12 Available - Adds 2 Fighters and 3 Gameplay Tuning Chan

Yeah, the AI has been great for about 4 mos now.

Absolutely !!!!