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  • MysticJack541
    Rookie
    • Nov 2017
    • 253

    #31
    Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

    Originally posted by ImAnOlogist
    Don't get rocked, protect yourself, don't show boat. You're obviously striking focused when you play, if a player works for the health event and gets a take down on you. They deserve the reward for their hard work. Learn to defend yourself on the ground. It's a fine idea.
    Who said anything about showboating? I personally don't taunt. Getting rocked in EA UFC 3 is a very common occurence for both players, an automatic takedown after you stun someone no matter what fighter you're using, or fighting against is an absurd idea, unrealistic idea. Now the window being shorter to deny, i'm 100% down for.

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    • aholbert32
      (aka Alberto)
      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #32
      Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

      Added a new type of takedown called the driving takedown. You perform this takedown by attempting an LB/L1 modified double leg takedown from range, where your opponent's back is closer to the cage than the center of the octagon. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

      The driving takedown will cost more stamina in general than a regular takedown, but the stamina cost is a function of ratings, the amount of time it takes to get to the cage, and the opponent's denial timing. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

      The success/failure of the denial of a driving takedown is a function of those same variables, not just the timing of the denial. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

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      • Boiler569
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 2006

        #33
        Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

        I (assume) the undeniable double leg simply puts you into Full Guard, right?

        If it ended up in a SLAM resulting in side control or even half guard....I could see these undeniable TDs off of a rock being OP.

        As an alternative --- I would be OK with shortening the denial window to only a few frames during a rock, *if pre-denials were not possible to perform while rocked*

        This would also assume equal stamina.

        But if you are rocked....AND have a stamina disadvantage...I really have no issue at all with undeniable dbl leg to Full Guard.

        We'll see how this actually plays out. Doubt it'll be perfect but I have a feeling it's a step in the right direction.
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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #34
          Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

          Originally posted by MysticJack541
          Who said anything about showboating? I personally don't taunt. Getting rocked in EA UFC 3 is a very common occurence for both players, an automatic takedown after you stun someone no matter what fighter you're using, or fighting against is an absurd idea, unrealistic idea. Now the window being shorter to deny, i'm 100% down for.

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          I'm not willing to agree that its "absurd" especially given that "making the window shorter" would pretty much have the same affect as the undeniable takedown has. I'm going to ask Solid about the actual breakdown of frames but if its the difference between a 5% chance of stopping the takedown and 0%, I dont think its that big of a deal. Especially when people use non grapplers.

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          • WarMMA
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 4612

            #35
            Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

            Hmm...yh idk if it was a good idea to make them totally undeniable...especially since everyone can do it. And if this was the way they wanted to do it, this definitely should have been similar to the ankle pick imo, where guys have to have a certain td rating. So yh now fighters like Conor will be able to rock you and take you down right away like he's some wrestler. No he's not great on the ground, but he can still use it to score. A competent player like myself can still just take that free td and then block until I can getup or ref stands it up. But anyway we'll see how it plays out. Just don't have a good feeling about it being totally undeniable and for literally everyone.

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            • WarMMA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4612

              #36
              Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              Added a new type of takedown called the driving takedown. You perform this takedown by attempting an LB/L1 modified double leg takedown from range, where your opponent's back is closer to the cage than the center of the octagon. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

              The driving takedown will cost more stamina in general than a regular takedown, but the stamina cost is a function of ratings, the amount of time it takes to get to the cage, and the opponent's denial timing. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

              The success/failure of the denial of a driving takedown is a function of those same variables, not just the timing of the denial. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #37
                Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                Originally posted by WarMMA
                Hmm...yh idk if it was a good idea to make them totally undeniable...especially since everyone can do it. And if this was the way they wanted to do it, this definitely should have been similar to the ankle pick imo, where guys have to have a certain td rating. So yh now fighters like Conor will be able to rock you and take you down right away like he's some wrestler. No he's not great on the ground, but he can still use it to score. A competent player like myself can still just take that free td and then block until I can getup or ref stands it up. But anyway we'll see how it plays out. Just don't have a good feeling about it being totally undeniable and for literally everyone.
                - Takedowns alone dont factor into the game's judging other than the damage it does (which is very little).

                - You dont have to be a wrestler to take someone down while they are rocked in real life.

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                • WarMMA
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4612

                  #38
                  Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  - Takedowns alone dont factor into the game's judging other than the damage it does (which is very little).

                  - You dont have to be a wrestler to take someone down while they are rocked in real life.
                  Oh ok and obviously I know the latter man lol. I just said that cuz I know cheezy Conor players will be using him like a wrestler in those situations just cuz they know the td's free and they'll get it just cuz they rocked me. We'll see how it plays out. But forget this...that driving td news has made my day!
                  Last edited by WarMMA; 12-05-2018, 02:29 PM.

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                  • rabbitfistssaipailo
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1625

                    #39
                    Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    Added a new type of takedown called the driving takedown. You perform this takedown by attempting an LB/L1 modified double leg takedown from range, where your opponent's back is closer to the cage than the center of the octagon. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

                    The driving takedown will cost more stamina in general than a regular takedown, but the stamina cost is a function of ratings, the amount of time it takes to get to the cage, and the opponent's denial timing. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3

                    The success/failure of the denial of a driving takedown is a function of those same variables, not just the timing of the denial. #patchspoilers #EAUFC3
                    A lot of people forget that some fighters have a guillotine when an opponent is attempting a takedown against the cage . I tried to take Connor down and my brother tried to sub me . I was hella surprised .

                    Imagine using stamina to do the driving take down only to end up strangled against the cage .

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                    • Trillz
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1369

                      #40
                      Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                      the undeniable takedown during heath event seems bad, nothing shouldnt be undeniable like that its so easy to get a rock in this game. there needs to be different levels of being rocked.
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                      • WarMMA
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4612

                        #41
                        Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                        Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                        A lot of people forget that some fighters have a guillotine when an opponent is attempting a takedown against the cage . I tried to take Connor down and my brother tried to sub me . I was hella surprised .

                        Imagine using stamina to do the driving take down only to end up strangled against the cage .

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                        Dude i'm so glad this made it in. I was beginning to think we may not see this until UFC 4, but looks like I was wrong. Now grappling is really getting to where it needs to be. Now if they can just fix that "no grappling allowed" bug when you get directly behind an opponent.
                        Last edited by WarMMA; 12-05-2018, 03:00 PM.

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                        • HereticGabriel
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 614

                          #42
                          Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                          Any chance the glitch/bug of lunging behind to your opponents back and shooting a takedown or clinch results in a failure/missed shot? Can’t count how many times I’ve major lunged, got behind them, shot the takedown, what he the meter fill 100%, the animation plays my guy moves forward(I practically inside the dude now) then stands up like a missed double leg just happened

                          And how about a change to takedown reversals? Mainly double under? The window has to be much smaller. Same as the denial honestly, if I set up the perfect shot from side stepping, lunging, swaying some strikes and ducking under hooks, if there was only a slim chance you could deny it, there should be just as slim a chance you can easily reverse it. The window is far too large

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                          • rabbitfistssaipailo
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 1625

                            #43
                            Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                            Yeah bro me too ...I just wish the devs would take it a bit further and give us the ability to do the driving takedown anywhere in the octagon ...whilst giving the other fighter the option to sprawl or do the underarm reversal , use the momentum to roll and try and get up or away , or even go for a sub.

                            That would be for wrestlers or Bjj guys tho ...



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                            • GameplayDevUFC
                              Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 2830

                              #44
                              Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                              Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                              A lot of people forget that some fighters have a guillotine when an opponent is attempting a takedown against the cage . I tried to take Connor down and my brother tried to sub me . I was hella surprised .

                              Imagine using stamina to do the driving take down only to end up strangled against the cage .

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                              The details will be better explianed in the game play blog, but denial timing will play a big role in the stamina tax for both fighters.

                              A well timed denial on a driving takedown from the center of the octagon will completely gas the attacker.

                              A poorly times denial on a driving takedown from the center of the octagon will completely gas the defender.

                              The defender can choose to stop defending at any time to preserve stamina. The attacker cannot.

                              Finding the right set-up for these will be interesting.

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                              • WarMMA
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4612

                                #45
                                Re: New patch spoilers - 12/3

                                Originally posted by HereticGabriel
                                Any chance the glitch/bug of lunging behind to your opponents back and shooting a takedown or clinch results in a failure/missed shot? Can’t count how many times I’ve major lunged, got behind them, shot the takedown, what he the meter fill 100%, the animation plays my guy moves forward(I practically inside the dude now) then stands up like a missed double leg just happened
                                Exactly this! It's really hurting the lunging game for grappling. If you ever get directly behind an oppenent, clinch attempts should put you straight into back clinch and td attempts should result in the tackle to back side. I really hope they fix this.

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