Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

[HereticFighter]

I'm sure many of you have noticed there are several strikes that just can't be feinted, or are very very inconsistent. The forward moving lead leg kick comes to mind, as well as forward moving body kicks. I thought this might be a good place to compile a list of strikes that won't feint.

The other issue, some of you don't seem to mind. Auto level changes on strikes. I understand the logic, but I pick the strike i input for a reason. Usually what happens is i plant and go for a head kick cause I know the opponent is going to back straight up. By the time the kick actually comes out they will be in perfect range for the head-kick. However the game decided that when I threw the kick i was too close for head kick. So it converts to a body kick which is easily catchable. Then later in the same fight the guy will hit 1-2 headkick from phonebooth range to the point the animation looks totally wrong as the leg contorts to a silly angle. Same thing happens with the front kick to the face, it converts to a knee sometimes and hits air. If it hits air then its clearly not knee range.

This stuff needs to go for the next game, its too inconsistent and usually costs me rather than helps.

[dfab14]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

The forward moving lead leg kick is the one that really stands out for me cause I like to feint the kick then throw a straight but it fails to register the leg kick being cancelled I just thought it was user error maybe not though

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[RomeroXVII]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

The forward moving lead leg kick is the one that really stands out for me cause I like to feint the kick then throw a straight but it fails to register the leg kick being cancelled I just thought it was user error maybe not though

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Yeah, it's annoying. Also the jab hitting the block apparently putting you at kick range is also annoying, which is why the phonebooth head kicks that OP described happen.

That knee issue is ESPECIALLY annoying, the front kick counter is my go-to, but I've been dropped because of it converting because my opponent decided to inch himself in a little bit closer, if anything, he should have been eating a stronger front kick to the face, the audacity of him to step into my foots personal space.

[HereticFighter]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

Yeah, it's annoying. Also the jab hitting the block apparently putting you at kick range is also annoying, which is why the phonebooth head kicks that OP described happen.

That knee issue is ESPECIALLY annoying, the front kick counter is my go-to, but I've been dropped because of it converting because my opponent decided to inch himself in a little bit closer, if anything, he should have been eating a stronger front kick to the face, the audacity of him to step into my foots personal space.

Hmm i didn't know that about the jab causing the headkick issue. At least knowing that should make it more predictable. I finally got my girlfriend playing this game and the auto-level change on strikes has been her biggest complaint so far. She only plays UT solo challenges and career etc so she won't notice the issues the way we do.

[SUGATA]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

I'm sure many of you have noticed there are several strikes that just can't be feinted, or are very very inconsistent. The forward moving lead leg kick comes to mind, as well as forward moving body kicks. I thought this might be a good place to compile a list of strikes that won't feint.

The other issue, some of you don't seem to mind. Auto level changes on strikes. I understand the logic, but I pick the strike i input for a reason. Usually what happens is i plant and go for a head kick cause I know the opponent is going to back straight up. By the time the kick actually comes out they will be in perfect range for the head-kick. However the game decided that when I threw the kick i was too close for head kick. So it converts to a body kick which is easily catchable. Then later in the same fight the guy will hit 1-2 headkick from phonebooth range to the point the animation looks totally wrong as the leg contorts to a silly angle. Same thing happens with the front kick to the face, it converts to a knee sometimes and hits air. If it hits air then its clearly not knee range.

This stuff needs to go for the next game, its too inconsistent and usually costs me rather than helps.

Agree.

Bad animation of some FWD Moving strikes Feints (almost NO animation at all) - is an animation issue. Example: FWD moving lead leg kick.

Kick AUTO transforming into Knee - is an issue also, b/c the system can not predict opponent's follow up movement direction and counts only right here (no human anticipation role).
> How to solve: remove auto transforming. Make a real time partial move with decreased properties (instead of Front kick into Knee on closing opponent you get half way Front kick with decreased amplitude (dmg) and unbalancing = more realistic, more risk/reward (reward on moving away opponent, fail on closing opponent)
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it allows to neglect opponent kick simply my Locomotion (by LS).

[Good Grappler]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

You can’t cancel any sway punches. Surprised that isn’t brought up more

[SUGATA]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

You can’t cancel any sway punches. Surprised that isn’t brought up more

Agree
Swaying strike feint MUST TO BE in the game.
Remember boxing Marquez VS Paquae - Marqez used it a lot, for discovering opponent’s reaction scripts to SS and to counter them or to force them to put down their attention to his SS b/c of Feints.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

Agree
Swaying strike feint MUST TO BE in the game.
Remember boxing Marquez VS Paquae - Marqez used it a lot, for discovering opponent’s reaction scripts to SS and to counter them or to force them to put down their attention to his SS b/c if Feints.

Yep, I agree wholeheartedly here.

They also have to fix some issues with hooks being treated as straight strikes, which leads them getting slip straighted as well, and also range inconsistencies.

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[Haz____]

Re: Un-feintable strikes and automatic level changes

The only time Front Kicks turning into Knees is nice, is for fighters who don't have Knees already.

But yeah. Let me do what I want to do. Stop magnetizing strikes to land from out of range. Stop changing a head kick into a body kick. Just stop all that.