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  • 1212headkick
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1823

    #16
    Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

    Maybe I didnt correlate my thoughts correctly. But I think they should do less damage then they currently do when rocked by fighters not known for ko power. If I make your arms tired how are you going to ko me?

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    • RTSImperator
      Rookie
      • May 2016
      • 106

      #17
      Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

      Originally posted by 1212headkick
      What's the logic behind this? In fight night if your gassed it's over for you and that's how it should be
      It might just be more of an issue Fighter A's health vs Fighter B's stamina. If your opponent is gassed, but your chin health has been depleted substantially while they got there. It takes very little to rock you.

      I do agree that it does sometimes feel like tired fighters hit with too much power though, more so in Ultimate Team especially.
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      • MacGowan
        Sassy
        • Jun 2017
        • 1681

        #18
        Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

        If you're gassed your grappling speed is crap, your head movement is crap, your fighter movement is crap, and your strike speed is crap. I'm okay with some power in your Hail Marys.

        I would like to see the stamina meter go all the way to 0 though.

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        • SHADOW_UFCMMA
          Banned
          • Nov 2019
          • 419

          #19
          Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          How many average/below average power fighters are you seeing causing health events/rocks/KOs when fatigued (less than 50%)?
          Now rechecking i meant below avreage. Like a max hollway.

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          • Find_the_Door
            Nogueira connoisseur
            • Jan 2012
            • 4051

            #20
            Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

            Originally posted by mr420_qq
            One thing that frustrates me is that while being rocked you can't throw a normal hook to save your life but you can throw a perfect flyingknee with KO power.
            Yes - easily one of the most frustrating things and common enough that you just simply shouldn't even be able to throw one when rocked.
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            • LarsP
              Pro
              • Mar 2016
              • 720

              #21
              Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

              Originally posted by Find_the_Door
              Yes - easily one of the most frustrating things and common enough that you just simply shouldn't even be able to throw one when rocked.
              I disagree. I think accuracy should be really low, but throwing a flying knee after being hurt is a real thing in MMA. Conor vs Khabib comes to mind.

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              • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                Banned
                • Nov 2019
                • 419

                #22
                Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

                Originally posted by LarsP
                I disagree. I think accuracy should be really low, but throwing a flying knee after being hurt is a real thing in MMA. Conor vs Khabib comes to mind.
                Thats diffrent because that was a flash knockdown. And conor got a chin (when hes fresh and is not gassed).

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                • TheGentlemanGhost
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1321

                  #23
                  Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

                  Originally posted by LarsP
                  I disagree. I think accuracy should be really low, but throwing a flying knee after being hurt is a real thing in MMA. Conor vs Khabib comes to mind.


                  That was after a knockdown wasn’t it? Not really the same, he was recovered. Plus that knee didn’t exactly do much either way. Rocked flying knees are out of control lol.

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                  • HereticFighter
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 421

                    #24
                    Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

                    I understand Geoff’s point but you have two things working against you in this game; people throw at a rate way exceeding that of a real fight, and they’ll keep doing it until way more drained than reality (maybe kimbo / dada5000) but if their stamina is really that low then we basically ARE talking kimbo vs. Dada at which point I think 25% is probably high but a better compromise
                    Last edited by HereticFighter; 02-12-2020, 01:16 PM. Reason: Typo

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                    • Boiler569
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 2006

                      #25
                      Re: Why do fatigue strikes do full damage

                      I've seen way too many fatigued/very fatigued (<50%) strikes do way too much damage, way too many times.

                      We talk about reduction in Speed...we talk about reduction in Power....all fine and well.

                      But, I also think a reduction in ACCURACY should be a big part of being gassed out.

                      Sure, Ngannou @ 50% stamina could still kill me with an uppercut. But it would be one sloppy, ugly uppercut, that could probably be avoided pretty easily by a decent fighter with 70% stamina and just a small amount of defensive skill.

                      Definitely would like to see Accuracy/Hit Detection play a bigger role in the future.
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