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  • johnmangala
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4525

    #31
    Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

    Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
    Also i can't explain this, but i hope the gameplay looks fluid. It looks like 2 robots fighting in ea ufc games. Something that thq ufc 3 had that i noticed is how fluid it looked. I remember especially when watching beta gameplay on youtube of the notorious conor on how robotish he looked. He also feels super robotic. I hope ufc 4 is just fluid as can be.
    The clinch and subs feels disjointed from the rest of the game. I hope this is addressed. I think they can do good with a clinch that is updated and striking out of subs.

    I hope there's a rumble for subs so we can play immersively. But the main thing I want now is an improved clinch.

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    • Trillz
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1369

      #32
      Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

      combo system feels too scripted, stats should play more of a role more, not throwing a scripted sequence that everyone uses.
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      • SHADOW_UFCMMA
        Banned
        • Nov 2019
        • 419

        #33
        Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

        Originally posted by Trillz
        combo system feels too scripted, stats should play more of a role more, not throwing a scripted sequence that everyone uses.
        Yup and the punch animation does not help either. The palm down punch looks so forced when my opponent is on his way down and that punch animation plays i cringe it should change at that curtain moment to a for example ryan garcia right hook.

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        • Serengeti1
          MVP
          • Mar 2016
          • 1720

          #34
          Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

          Originally posted by Trillz
          combo system feels too scripted, stats should play more of a role more, not throwing a scripted sequence that everyone uses.
          Take someone like Yoel Romero... He doesn't have the jab/upper/hook combo in the game. Imo that is fine. He doesn't throw it irl (I'm a realism guy). It's not the type of striker he is. The issue is that his advantages are not felt elsewhere and boxing combos are highly important in the meta so he's at a significant disadvantage. He doesn't feel that much more powerful/athletic than everyone else. This is where the stats need to come into play to make him Yoel Romero. The game doesn't really serve powerful, athletic types in general as much as it should.

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          • rabbitfistssaipailo
            MVP
            • Nov 2017
            • 1625

            #35
            Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

            Originally posted by Haz____
            This is what annoys me about this game. When you rock someone, the game wants you to just throw a "block breaker" combo at them, crush the block, and finish them.

            Trying to use feints, or mix ups and set up a big finishing shot is how you end up with 10 rocks and knockdowns a fight.

            The game wants you to use high volume.
            You can take your time with it too ...

            Sent from my Infinix X604 using Operation Sports mobile app

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            • TheGentlemanGhost
              MVP
              • Jun 2016
              • 1321

              #36
              Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

              Originally posted by HartmanTeets6
              I want a camp career mode. You build a camp, can create a handful of guys in different divisions, and play as all of them. For training purposes, you would do camp style training sessions and then all the guys would get points, and you could pick where to allocate. This would make it so where you don't have to train each one individually. You could develop rivalries with not only other fighters, but with other camps. The better your fighters do, the more your camp can level up and bring different experts in to help training.


              Yup, I’ve been begging for this for a while. It’s the most realistic way to do a career based mode while still having a few real fighters and having enough fights to reach contender status. This is my highest non-gameplay demand.

              As far gameplay, the grappling and sub system is on top of my list. Gonna get those two things to become a lot more immersive and fun. Hopefully getting logical takedowns windows back and be applied to that as well.

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              • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                Banned
                • Nov 2019
                • 419

                #37
                Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
                Yup, I’ve been begging for this for a while. It’s the most realistic way to do a career based mode while still having a few real fighters and having enough fights to reach contender status. This is my highest non-gameplay demand.

                As far gameplay, the grappling and sub system is on top of my list. Gonna get those two things to become a lot more immersive and fun. Hopefully getting logical takedowns windows back and be applied to that as well.
                It would be nice to see ground transitions and scrambles mix fluidly with the submissions. Just look at the way ryan hall and charles olivera flow off their back to a sumbission. Beauty.
                Last edited by SHADOW_UFCMMA; 03-19-2020, 05:38 PM.

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                • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2019
                  • 419

                  #38
                  Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                  Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                  You can take your time with it too ...

                  Sent from my Infinix X604 using Operation Sports mobile app
                  Well haz basically explained what happens when you take your time. The opponent recovers, and like haz said you end up with 10 rocks.

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                  • TheGentlemanGhost
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 1321

                    #39
                    Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                    Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
                    It would be nice to see ground transitions and scrambles mix fluidly with the submissions. Just look at the way ryan hall and charles olivera flow off their back to a sumbission. Beauty.


                    I think they could add scrambles. Go for a takedown and the opponent can flick the stick in one direction to deny and another direction to reverse it but with a shorter window. If reversed, the player that initiated the takedown can also have a short window to either quickly get up or get top control again while the other player has to guess which to defend to keep position. Maybe that can work, no meter filling though, just timing so it can be fluid.

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                    • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 419

                      #40
                      Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                      Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
                      I think they could add scrambles. Go for a takedown and the opponent can flick the stick in one direction to deny and another direction to reverse it but with a shorter window. If reversed, the player that initiated the takedown can also have a short window to either quickly get up or get top control again while the other player has to guess which to defend to keep position. Maybe that can work, no meter filling though, just timing so it can be fluid.
                      Very good point. Ngl i would hate to see any fill in transitions in ufc 4 if they add it.

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                      • T4H Recognize
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 94

                        #41
                        Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                        I want ufc ea 4 for the nintedo switch or pc

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                        • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2019
                          • 419

                          #42
                          Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                          I want there to be more blood cuts, and gashes. I want to see a bloody war if you get into a war in ufc 4. Right now you get in a absolute 5 round war in ufc 3 and get a bruise and 2 small cuts with a little blood dripping out. A 5 round war should look like this. https://www.google.com/search?q=colb...UFC3KG2u1tFdBM

                          Also i want there to be a consequence to getting cut and a reward for cutting up your opponent. If you cut the opponent above there eye,their accuracy attribute should go down. Not much but a little.

                          The blood is good to look at and makes the game feel real. But it does not change anything about the fight. And what i said above will have that change.

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                          • DCowboys22
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 365

                            #43
                            Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                            Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
                            I want there to be more blood cuts, and gashes.
                            I completely agree. Just for the sake of realism. I threw out an idea of having Cut/Bleed levels 1-5.

                            Depending on multiple factors. Every fighter should have a cut rating. Guys like Nate Diaz or Diego Sanchez should have poor cut ratings as they have a lot of scar tissue and get cut up frequently.

                            Next, depending on the strike, it could open up a cut level 1-5. The higher the level the more it bleed, the more it bleeds the more it impacts the fighters block attributes and accuracy. If you initially open up a level 1 or 2 cut, it might not be bad, but if it gets continually hit it will develop into a 3,4 or 5 level. So an early cut in a 5 rounder could be a problem later.

                            Also, Level 5 cuts would be subject to Doctor stoppages.

                            Finally - all of this would be under the hood. We wouldn’t have a meter telling us anything about what level the cut is. We only have the fighter visual and the bleeding to get an idea.

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                            • DCowboys22
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 365

                              #44
                              Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                              A cut/blood system like this also makes certain strikes more dangerous. If I’m sitting in top-guard, my posture is held down and my opponent is landing multiple elbows from bottom, I should be really worried about that and get out.

                              Watch GSP vs Bisping for an example. GSP has Bisping down in guard, Bisping cut him up with vicious elbows. It wound up being worse for GSP than Bisping being on bottom.
                              Last edited by DCowboys22; 03-20-2020, 12:33 PM.

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                              • ryangil23
                                Rookie
                                • May 2016
                                • 418

                                #45
                                Re: What do you want most from UFC 4?

                                The grappling absolutely has to be revamped. It’s such an equaliser just to practically get a free win out of one transition denial when you knock them around the cage and they survive all sorts of punishment, even multiple knockdowns.

                                Holding R2/RT and flicking the right stick to a win is just wrong. Like some positions you’ve a 1 in 3 or in certain ones a 1 in 2 chance of just guessing the transition if you pre-deny and that denial could effectively end the fight. It’s probably more of a 50/50 in a lot of cases since you can rule out 1 transition as it’s extremely slow and it’s very rare anyone even tries it.

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