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  • johnmangala
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4525

    #46
    Re: Submission system is insanely bad

    Originally posted by johnmangala
    I just faced a lvl 7 guy and even his sub bar was wild. They have to change it.
    Faced a lvl 11 player and the same thing happened : (

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    • Find_the_Door
      Nogueira connoisseur
      • Jan 2012
      • 4051

      #47
      Re: Submission system is insanely bad

      Originally posted by zeric
      Why am i not surprised you said this? Takedowns are nearly impossible to stop. I was playing against players with 100+ mayches and no one was stuffing any takedowns

      Like dont get me wrong i dont want a kneejerk reaction here where it is overpatched, but last night i played dmart(we were both top 5 at the time) and i was maia and he was covington. It should be hard for me to get takedowns with that matchup but i was getting them nearly at will. He stuffed a few but it js jidt a tad easy for sure.
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      Getting takedowns against Maia shouldn't be a problem and not only that I find when I land a takedown against Maia I immediately want to get up because of the threat of subs from guard etc.

      I had a McGregor absolutely destroy me last night. Couldn't land a takedown on him. He was super disciplined whenever he'd miss a strike to immediately be on takedown defense. Shut me down 100% was helpless against him.
      Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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      • Tyeanisbae
        Rookie
        • Jul 2018
        • 128

        #48
        Re: Submission system is insanely bad

        Originally posted by johnmangala
        Faced a lvl 11 player and the same thing happened : (


        JUST TURN THE WHEEL SLOWLY I have escaped so many by just turning the wheel slowly and if your in a triangle and your winning the sub battle you can slam if you press triangle on time for a quicker escape


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        • johnmangala
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4525

          #49
          Re: Submission system is insanely bad

          Originally posted by Tyeanisbae
          JUST TURN THE WHEEL SLOWLY I have escaped so many by just turning the wheel slowly and if your in a triangle and your winning the sub battle you can slam if you press triangle on time for a quicker escape


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          No I know how to do it. I mean the lvl 7 and lvl 11 guys didn't know how to do it. I'm normally a sub guy and it makes the win feel cheap.

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          • zeric
            Pro
            • Aug 2016
            • 700

            #50
            Re: Submission system is insanely bad

            Originally posted by Find_the_Door
            Getting takedowns against Maia shouldn't be a problem and not only that I find when I land a takedown against Maia I immediately want to get up because of the threat of subs from guard etc.

            I had a McGregor absolutely destroy me last night. Couldn't land a takedown on him. He was super disciplined whenever he'd miss a strike to immediately be on takedown defense. Shut me down 100% was helpless against him.
            No. I was maia. Taking down colby.

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            • Find_the_Door
              Nogueira connoisseur
              • Jan 2012
              • 4051

              #51
              Re: Submission system is insanely bad

              Originally posted by zeric
              No. I was maia. Taking down colby.

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              Well then his takedown defense as a player just sucks right now [emoji2371]
              Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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              • zeric
                Pro
                • Aug 2016
                • 700

                #52
                Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                Well then his takedown defense as a player just sucks right now [emoji2371]
                I'm assuming you just have no threat on the feet to let a guy hold takedown defense after every single strike.

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                • zeric
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 700

                  #53
                  Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                  At this point takedowns are the only thing seeming overy unbalanced

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                  • Find_the_Door
                    Nogueira connoisseur
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 4051

                    #54
                    Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                    Originally posted by zeric
                    I'm assuming you just have no threat on the feet to let a guy hold takedown defense after every single strike.

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                    Well yeah as Colby against a legit striker that is kind of the case if they actually play good sprawl and brawl.

                    I mean what happened to this community - people used to love to learn and now people just expect to master a complete control change within less than a day and are upset they're losing in a beta.

                    Maybe they should have given out less codes lol
                    Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                    • zeric
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 700

                      #55
                      Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                      And i dont even care to have this discussion with you on this topic. You are biased. Your the man known for shooting for 50 takedowns just to spam submissions

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                      • Find_the_Door
                        Nogueira connoisseur
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4051

                        #56
                        Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                        Originally posted by zeric
                        And i dont even care to have this discussion with you on this topic. You are biased. Your the man known for shooting for 50 takedowns just to spam submissions

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                        What in the world? No I'm not lol

                        That's Bigg Cee if anyone

                        I box with Nog and box for the takedown.

                        Not only that I also use Paulo Costa a lot too - you think that I shoot with Paulo LMAO
                        Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                        • zeric
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 700

                          #57
                          Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                          Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                          What in the world? No I'm not lol

                          That's Bigg Cee if anyone

                          I box with Nog and box for the takedown.

                          Not only that I also use Paulo Costa a lot too - you think that I shoot with Paulo LMAO
                          Maybe i do have you confused. Is big cee the one who played like a million games on ufc 2? He was like number 1 or 2 on ps4 and then turned around and got top 100 on xbox? Maybe im just getting you confused. Regardless. Ive played like 200 matches and have rarely seen anyonr stuffing any takedowns. Unless theres a trick to it that youd like to share. Instead of just telling people they need to learn how about tell us your secrets man

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                          • Find_the_Door
                            Nogueira connoisseur
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4051

                            #58
                            Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                            Originally posted by zeric
                            Maybe i do have tlu confused. Is big cee the one who played like a million games on ufc 2? He was like number 1 or 2 on ps4 and then turned around and got top 100 on xbox? Maybe im just getting you confused. Regardless. Ive played like 200 matches and have rarely seen anyonr stuffing any takedowns. Unless theres a trick to it that youd like to share. Instead of just telling people they need to learn how about tell us your secrets man

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                            Yes that would be Bigg Cee

                            I don't know the trick to it but I'm eager to figure it out rather than just calling for changes on the forum. I know it's possible as there's been a couple sprawl and brawlers that have messed me up with McGregor and Leon.
                            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                            • johnmangala
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4525

                              #59
                              Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                              Originally posted by zeric
                              Maybe i do have you confused. Is big cee the one who played like a million games on ufc 2? He was like number 1 or 2 on ps4 and then turned around and got top 100 on xbox? Maybe im just getting you confused. Regardless. Ive played like 200 matches and have rarely seen anyonr stuffing any takedowns. Unless theres a trick to it that youd like to share. Instead of just telling people they need to learn how about tell us your secrets man

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                              Few people have it down, but once you get it it’s as hard as ufc 3 to land TDs.

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                              • Find_the_Door
                                Nogueira connoisseur
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4051

                                #60
                                Re: Submission system is insanely bad

                                Back on the topic of submissions the biggest thing that's unbalanced about them is that the attacker can instantly switch sides without penalty.

                                My suggestion to fix this is to make it if the attack flips sides that it loosens the submission. Or make it like Undisputed 3 where the attacker must decide which direction to go and chase and cannot instantly flip to the other side of the circle.
                                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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