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  • mannyonelover
    Pro
    • Apr 2016
    • 645

    #46
    Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

    I really hope they work on finish the fight sequence , the clinch game and give us an option to revert if possible to the UFC3 submission system..
    And transition counter windows should be bigger....


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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #47
      Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

      Originally posted by T4H Recognize
      Why did beta end so early weird

      There is a large misconception that the point of a beta is to find flaws and change things for the final build and that isn’t the case.

      The point of the beta is to test the servers. You only need a couple days to get the sample size needed for that. It was no different with the Madden beta which was only open for a couple days as well.

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      • oilersfan365
        Rookie
        • Apr 2019
        • 296

        #48
        Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

        Originally posted by gsp4392
        Exactly! What is making me more angry is they already have the animations for the change, so why not? The casual fan appeal argument is BS. My friend is a casual but if you show him this, he can tell you that’s not how fights finish in MMA and it looks dumb.

        Now that the Beta is done, I hope they can read this and finally change this for day 1 patch along with some of the game mechanics issues.
        Honestly at this point screw the casual fans that is what is ruining the series. If a casual fan buys the game they should know it should be a sim fighting game. If not stick to mortal kombat and don't buy this game.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #49
          Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

          Originally posted by oilersfan365
          Honestly at this point screw the casual fans that is what is ruining the series. If a casual fan buys the game they should know it should be a sim fighting game. If not stick to mortal kombat and don't buy this game.
          The goal of making a video game is to sell that video game to the most possible customers.

          Forcing casual fans (who far outnumber hardcore fans) to buy a game that isnt pick up and play is hard. Especially when EA's data tells them the hardcore approach isnt likely to significantly increase sales with casual fans.

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          • GameplayDevUFC
            Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
            • Jun 2014
            • 2830

            #50
            Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

            Originally posted by oilersfan365
            Honestly at this point screw the casual fans that is what is ruining the series. If a casual fan buys the game they should know it should be a sim fighting game. If not stick to mortal kombat and don't buy this game.
            The casual fans are saving the series. If no casual fans bought the game the game wouldn't be made.

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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #51
              Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

              Bring on TBS that would be great for casuals and hardcores a like.

              Itd be good for casuals because it's just deny or transition something they are already familiar with. Itd be good for hardcores because it opens up the sub game a lot.

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              • tissues250
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1526

                #52
                Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                I'm just wondering casual fans hate various tko scenario? and They hate double underhooks in the clinch?

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #53
                  Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                  Originally posted by tissues250
                  I'm just wondering casual fans hate various tko scenario? and They hate double underhooks in the clinch?
                  They definitely hate double under hooks and being pinned against the cage unable to do anything.

                  They hate that a lot.

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                  • Counter Punch
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 949

                    #54
                    Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                    Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                    The casual fans are saving the series. If no casual fans bought the game the game wouldn't be made.
                    I’m sure this is beyond the scope of this discussion and likely something that you can’t divulge, but how exactly are players categorized as hardcore vs casual? Did they self identify as such, or is it determined based on certain criteria? I would imagine if it’s a binary categorization there would have to be tremendous overlap between the two communities in various aspects of what they want.
                    ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                    • GameplayDevUFC
                      Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2830

                      #55
                      Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                      Originally posted by Counter Punch
                      I’m sure this is beyond the scope of this discussion and likely something that you can’t divulge, but how exactly are players categorized as hardcore vs casual? Did they self identify as such, or is it determined based on certain criteria? I would imagine if it’s a binary categorization there would have to be tremendous overlap between the two communities in various aspects of what they want.
                      There are a lot of ways to partition the groups unfortunately so there not a single, clearly agreed upon definition for casual vs hard core.

                      Play time is one simple metric though. I obviously can't divulge any of the numbers.

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                      • tissues250
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 1526

                        #56
                        Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                        They definitely hate double under hooks and being pinned against the cage unable to do anything.

                        They hate that a lot.
                        I think, they hate whole ground and clinch game. They only love striking. So you guys added only standing mode. A lot of ppl who hate grappling they're always saying pls make the new fight night.

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                        • Phillyboi207
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3159

                          #57
                          Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                          Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                          They definitely hate double under hooks and being pinned against the cage unable to do anything.

                          They hate that a lot.
                          You just explained so much...

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                          • gsp4392
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 233

                            #58
                            Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                            Originally posted by tissues250
                            I'm just wondering casual fans hate various tko scenario? and They hate double underhooks in the clinch?
                            Casuals can watch an MMA fight on TV and see for themselves how fights end. Since the pandemic the UFC has seen a growth in new viewers because they have been the only sport on TV.

                            You can still target the casual market, without changing the difficulty of the game. All we are asking for is correct animations to Finish the Fight, both for standing and ground.

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                            • NEWSS
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 291

                              #59
                              Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              There is a large misconception that the point of a beta is to find flaws and change things for the final build and that isn’t the case.

                              The point of the beta is to test the servers. You only need a couple days to get the sample size needed for that. It was no different with the Madden beta which was only open for a couple days as well.
                              Well in the Beta email there was a link to a forum where to provide feedback, including gameplay feedback

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #60
                                Re: Official Closed Beta Announcement

                                Originally posted by tissues250
                                I think, they hate whole ground and clinch game. They only love striking. So you guys added only standing mode. A lot of ppl who hate grappling they're always saying pls make the new fight night.
                                I think that is a simplistic way at looking at it. I dont think "casuals" hate grappling. They just want a more straight forward way to do that in the game.

                                With that said, I dont think EA got it right with their attempt to appeal to them with UFC 4 grappling.

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